Changing a child's birth certificate

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@glinner has posted about this (as have many others, and the parents themselves have posted this publicly)

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1115016553471381504

This is all progressive and lovely and woke of course and sparkles mermaids lovely lovely.

If you adopt a child in some jurisdictions (including the place we adopted our children from, but not the UK thankfully) the child is given a new birth certificate which also lies and says in this case that the child was born to the adoptive parents (who may have been halfway round the world at the time - we were!).

adoption.com/birth-certificates-for-adoptees/
www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/did-i-steal-my-daughter-tribulations-global-adoption/

This is, rightly, seen as a human rights issue. And adult adoptees are speaking out about it.

www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2016/08/12/with-push-from-adoptees-states-open-access-to-birth-records

I wonder how long before children who've been put through this by their parents start organising?

There is already a narrative around adoptive parents (and others) seeing their adult children as perpetual juveniles - not thinking forward to their now-children being adults in the future - but also not thinking of their currently-adult children as actually being adults.

This is magnified with the children who are being put on puberty blockers and actually having their development halted.

Book written by the mother of the 4 year old with the recently altered birth certificate: www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Counseling-LGBTQI-People-Ginicola/dp/1556203551?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

‘Affirmative Counseling for LGBTQI People’ by Misty M Ginicola

$72 for a book about LGBTQI counseilling? Wow it must hold the secrets to life for that price!

A child who can't read or write cannot consent to this. That four year old is going to be very confused and angry later in life and the parents are to blame. I can't for the life of me understand what is going on in someone's head in order to take such decisive action. It's not permanent, I suppose it can be changed back, but it a a pretty strange reaction to 'mummy I'm a girl'. I wouldn't indulge it, not at 4 I wouldn't.

That four year old is going to be very confused and angry later in life and the parents are to blame.

Exactly.

Four years old. As Graham said, we will look back on this as a very dark time.

No is doesn't

here in the U.K. once a child is adopted the birth certificate is sealed and the adoptive parents are issued with an ADOPTION certificate that looks the same as a birth certificate but says adoption certificate most people don’t realise because they look pretty much the same how do o know because I have one

Who are you disagreeing with TheLady? The OP says this doesn't apply in the U.K.

This has nothing to do with the child and everything to do with the adoptive parents. It completely goes against the accepted norm that children have a right to know their origins, that parents should be open and honest about their child's origins and ensure they are exposed to their birth culture if it differs from that of their adoptive parents

The benefit of archiving webpages:

archive.is/wnLYe

Ironically lying to children about their heritage causes issues around identity and sense of self.

It completely goes against the accepted norm that children have a right to know their origins, that parents should be open and honest about their child's origins
Precisely.
Adoptive parents have this emphasised (and we were surprised when we found out that where our children were born, we get these fictitious birth certificates, obviously we will tell our children they are false).

And yet parents who decide their child likes "girl things" (that's exactly what the parents in this case do - see nauticant's link) can erase that child's biological history.

Funny how lots of people on the Twitter thread who are pro the birth certificate change are saying it's not a big deal, it's just paperwork that can be changed back if the child decides they are no longer trans. If its not a big deal why change the birth certificate in the first place?

If its not a big deal why change the birth certificate in the first place?

Also, social transition leads to a much increased risk of medical transition.

Adoptees have adoption certificates in the UK so that they can show they are legally their parents' children/vice versa.

The only reason a child would need an altered BC with a change of sex would be to participate in single sex activities: schooling, clubs, sports.
So this child will now be able to go to a girls' school and take part in girls' sports post puberty. Great, eh?