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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So very cult-like

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SignMeUp · 04/04/2019 21:48

www.grunge.com/47584/cults-trick-believing/.
I used to think I was over-reacting when I had these thoughts,but I'm more and more convinced. This article lays out many of the operative similarities.

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OldCrone · 04/04/2019 23:27

Lots of similarities, but who's the charismatic leader?

MrGHardy · 04/04/2019 23:40

The magic gender fairy.

In the day of social media, do you really need a single leader, maybe even out in the woods type of style?

FloralBunting · 04/04/2019 23:51

There is no one leader, which is why I suggest that it's not a traditional cult, more a very influential neo-religion. It does have a priestly class, though - there are revered groomers on YouTube and various social media. That's probably the closest parallel with the single charismatic leader.

If you think about it, it does kind of make sense that given the tentacles of Genderism have so effectively been spread by the internet, the splintered culture of the internet itself would effect how a cult manifests. A geographical, real world cult would need the charismatic leader - an internet based and spread cult would be much more likely based on small pockets of fandoms linking together via a number of personalities.

Ereshkigal · 04/04/2019 23:54

I was thinking similar Floral, but that's a great analysis.

SignMeUp · 05/04/2019 00:05

Yes, I was hoping some of you brilliant thinkers would address the "charismatic leader" aspect.

Would Susie Green qualify? or Caitlyn J? or Munroe B? or perhaps charismatic could be replaced with "powerful" as in certain politicians and leaders in orgs that influence policy.

I also think some of the surgeons have an elevated status amongst those seeking surgery. And we know the god-like egos of surgeons.

Wait, Is it Jazz?

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FloralBunting · 05/04/2019 00:11

Well,one of the things you find in cults is that there may well be a 'figure head',but the recruitment is a much more collective effort. Which is why your Tumblr, YouTube, etc. Personalities gain their followings. Read the comments under certain videos - you are often witnessing intense love-bombing sessions.

dragoning · 05/04/2019 07:28

I think that there are close similarities with fundamentalist religion. But sometimes it feels more like a moral panic, a collective delusion.

The audacity of the proposition is breathtaking. People are convincing each other that something we know to be impossible - changing sex - is possible and taking place before our very eyes.

DpWm · 05/04/2019 07:41

it feels more like a moral panic, a collective delusion

Yes there's a book called Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds written in 1841 still relevant today.
I recommend it.

It's a curious combination of a popular delusion with cult-like behaviour such as illogical mantras, and the demonisation and various types of attacks on of those who dare to disagree, question or leave (detransitioners) the ideology.

teawamutu · 05/04/2019 07:45

Threads like this are why this board is my favourite place on the Internet. So knowledgeable and incisive. AND lovely grammar SmileGin

HorsewithnoDoubt · 05/04/2019 08:03

AND lovely grammar

She's all right.

happydappy2 · 05/04/2019 13:29

I feel it’s a perfect storm made up of a few elements....big pharma looking to make money out of healthy individuals, contagion of social media, online grooming, normalising of male sexual fetishes, Pornography in the mainstream topped off with men wishing to gain easy access to women’s spaces (who are not trans themselves).......which has exploded in the trans cult. I worry about the future....how as a society do we go back to allowing children to just grow up and be themselves? Stonewall is no longer fit for purpose, they & Mermaids need dismantling & all talk of trans kids removed from schools & places of education.

DpWm · 05/04/2019 18:12

I worry about the future....
The trans ideology phenomena will be written about and researched for decades to come because of it's extremities, and in so many ways it brings to light a misogyny that exists in our society that many people have simply never recognised until now.
So I think we live in hard times but everything that is happening strengthens the feminist position and brings more people over to it. The tide is turning.

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 05/04/2019 18:22

''Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds''
www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518

Read it online in plain text;
www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-0.txt

SignMeUp · 06/04/2019 21:11

Bad Penny I love you. I was going to go look it up.
Free books! Thanks

I was just listening to Mary Daly on the free radio archivesarchive.org/details/pacifica_radio_archives-AZ0454B
Go back to part one

DPMW it's true

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PencilsInSpace · 06/04/2019 22:15

I watched this the other day:

(Caution - hosted by a right wing student society #IdeologicalNits)

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