Paris transgender woman 'humiliated' at protest.

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In other words men, yes men, beat up a person (seems like actual bodily harm to me) who presents as a transgender woman in Paris.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47799288

Get it right BBC!

And the only person who steps in to help?

Ugly, male violence. What's new?

What's new is that 'ugly male violence' is being trotted out now as 'humiliation'.

Horrible attack on that person. Really horrible and that brave woman who tried to help

Men beating someone because they are different

I don't get it. What are you angry about?

The article says that men attacked a transgender woman in Paris and a woman stepped in to help. What did they get wrong?

The article says that men attacked a transgender woman in Paris and a woman stepped in to help. What did they get wrong?
The headline is misleading - she was physically attacked and beaten, not just 'humiliated'.

The headline depicts the beating up as "humiliation", which is minimising the male violence perpetrated on the transwoman.

I d'on't have to be 'angry' to post here. Do I?

What I'm saying is this attack on this person was appalling. The attack was made by men. The BBC describe it as humiliation as per my post heading.

Transgender woman beaten up by men at protest in Paris.

Is a more accurate description.

(and yes, woman steps in to help)

But the 'humiliation' is a quote, so I assume that came from the victim. Maybe that's the worst aspect of the attack from the victim's perspective, the humiliation of being targeted like that.

It's a horrendous example of transphobic male violence. Shouldn't have happened.

You presume, not assume.

The quote could have come from anyone.

The word "humiliation" (or humiliate, humiliating, humilated etc) doesn't appear anywhere in the article apart from the title.

This however is one quote from the victim:

"The violence against this [transgender] community takes place every day. But some people won't have the strength that I have and they'll be destroyed by these attacks," she said.

Or alternatively it could be what we endlessly point out: that the press minimise and disguise wholly unacceptable male violence by using word choices just like this. See how the wording puts the blame on the victim - they were 'humiliated' which is a subjective experience with passive wording, and the perpetrators and actions aren't even mentioned. 'Men attack transwoman' is active and names the perpetrators and the actions.

The facts are that men violently attacked a TW for looking different in a public place. Absolutely unacceptable, that poor TW.

No doubt the incident was "humiliating" and obviously, it was bang out of order but lets be honest here, would the BBC have reported a random female being beaten up and/or humiliated in France?

And the answer Miss is of course No.

Good point misscockerspaniel

It also highlights that male violence is once again minimised.

Erm has anyone watched the video?

Is that, the transgender woman going after the person and then it turns into a fight?

It’s quite interesting because woman are socialised into placating harassing men or leaving - because of the danger of what happens when you antagonise them.

Yes catalogue! The TW flicks their arm to get the woman helping them off and charges up the steps and squares up to the man who then punches them several times.

It’s male ego and arrogance in action.

Interesting. She was obviously provoked and harassed in a totally unacceptable manner but she responded in a very male way, using her body and physicality.

I mean, I don't blame her, she was protecting herself, but still interesting to note. Horrible incident. And, as usual, it's men who are the ones carrying out the actual literal violence

I did notice that. It's quite evident.

But that's male socialisation.

And what really distresses me is that women who call out biological sex are harassed, imprisoned without notice, doxxed, and put through the civil courts.

Being beaten up is a humiliation of course. Being told the truth about biology is literal hatred and requires punishment.

I mean, I don't blame her, she was protecting herself,

No. Disagree. Walking away is protecting yourself. The woman beside the TW was trying to protect them by pulling them away. What this person did was escalate the situation and invite more risk of assault. Which is what then happened. They went looking for a row and got one.

Interesting vid.

So Julia got their hair ruffled and then proceeded to get something out of their waistband (can't work out what, weapon of some sort?) and then charges at the harrasers and throws the first push/punch.

Fight ensues.

Socialization in action.

One man ruffled her hair, while a girl draped in an Algerian flag came to try to help Julia. As Julia moved on, a man repeatedly punched her while another could be seen kicking at her

First sentance is correct...the rest is written like Julia ignored them and went to carry on to where they were going (which is what women generally do).

Yes, I saw this and found it interesting that the woman tried to help her and was an ally for her, showing her the safer thing to do was to walk away. But the male-socialised trans woman goes in fists flying, chasing the fight down rather than walking away as most of us women do when confronted with the threat of male violence.

I don’t blame her in a way. Street harassment in Paris is part of every day life for women there and is part of the culture among some groups. It was sickening to me when I experienced it and if I had had Julia’s height and strength (she’s head and shoulders above the weedy little harassers which is quite funny) I would have been tempted to land a few punches myself. Still, not a safe response for a woman though. And again proves the point that the real transphobes who hurt trans women are male, not feminists.

Sigh another woman subjected to male violence