Georgia set to ban almost all abortions after 6 weeks

[KizzyWayfarer]

Totally dystopian.
www.vox.com/2019/3/30/18288283/georgia-abortion-fetal-heartbeat-bill
This Twitter thread explains how women will die because doctors will be afraid to initiate life-saving treatment if something goes wrong in pregnancy twitter.com/drjengunter/status/1111709845801951233

I look at it as a private matter between a woman and her medical professionals. Let each woman decide what is right for her, and place abortion firmly outside of any criminal framework.

That's awful

I need to spend some more time with this, I think. I'm tired of being the pro life voice that has to keep trying to justify punitive measures I don't even agree with myself. I can see clearly the harm this will do, and that it won't actually lead to what I would consider a 'pro life' culture, so I'm really, seriously wondering if its time I laid the label down.

mindyourlanguage.

Yes, it will lead to unsafe abortions. Worldwide abortion rates are lowest in western Europe due to a combination of free contraception and legal abortion as a fall-back position. They are highest in countries where both contraception and abortion are restricted. And the maternal mortality rate that goes with botched back-street abortions is sky high in those countries.

And no, women can't just hop over to the next (next next next) state (but 10). What if you're too poor to get there, and pay for overnight accommodation? What if you already have 3 kids you can't just leave to their own devices while you hop over to the nearest state with legal abortion? What if you're under 18 and have conservative parents who won't let you go?

When I read this i thought it meant Georgia the former Soviet Republic

Me too

No, I knew what it meant - the US situation is really ramping up, especially with that film out now.

(Obvious name reversion is obvious, I hope. Don't feel very Marvel right now)

Wtf is wrong with people
What Is it that goes through their heads?

Women will die. No question. Back to back street abortion days. Unregulated medications.

Women yet again being punished for having sex. The baby didn't just appear a man was involved.

Will you go after him? No thought not. Just legislate a woman's choice over her own body . By people who wont feed clothe teach or care for the baby or have anything to do with repairing birth damage.

Fuck off.

I haven’t followed this enough to comment but I agree it seems inconsistent.

I’m with FloralBunting I think. You can’t simply slap a ban on abortion if there has previously been a liberal regime and certainly not without a pro life culture.

Who or what is going to be there for these women who feel that their lives are over if they have to have a baby? Women in this situation need smothering with love, support and, vitally money. I guarantee that abortion rates would drastically drop if you could guarantee to pregnant women that they wouldn’t have to worry about money. They don’t even have decent maternity leave in the US.

Pro-life must be thoughtful and while it seems oxymoronic, pro-woman.

The stupid thing is such punitive measures will push desperate women into the hands of Dr Kermit Gosnell types, performing abortions up to term - doesn't sound very pro-life to me.

You can legally, and with medical support, electively cut off your breasts - to the detriment of your health.
And amputate your penis - to the detriment of your health.
You can chop off any body part you want, and throw it away, ill-advised though that might be, without breaking any law, as is your right as the sovereign of your own body.

But not your uterus. You cannot empty your own uterus - even if it is to the unequivocal benefit of your own health. It isn't yours to do with as you please. Your body. But not yours. Owned and used against your will. You can't even swallow a pill. Your own body. But not yours.

I was once 'pro-life'. I changed my position. I believe the greater moral ill is ownership of another person's body. It is better to die than to force another person to forfeit their bodily autonomy against their will. None of us should have a claim on the body of another. Our rights begin when we are physically free of our mother's bodies. Until then it is her decision and hers alone whether she will use her own body to sustain another.

I'm scared for those women in Georgia. They don't own themselves.

I also assumed this was referring to the Former Soviet State of Georgia. However, I'm not that surprised that it's actually Georgia, USA. Very little surprises me these days regarding the regression of American women's rights. What I do find quite shocking is how happy & active so many women are in the movement to remove those rights. Gilead indeed.

Well hopefully they will be putting a huge amount of effort into improving contraception services and making sure it has never been easier for all women to quickly access all types of contraception.

Also, ensuring there is welfare and support for women who do end up pregnant, including ensuring that fathers step to their equal responsibility (financially and otherwise) in creating the life. Since women have no choice to terminate then obviously men will be held equally accountable.

Something tells me otherwise though...

Georgia is in the Bible belt, states in the belt tend be more conservative (even when not church-going religious).

Most of my family resides in the belt. Catholic side of my family is against abortion, pro birth control, IVF is 'ok' if done in secret. Baptist side of my family find abortion, birth control, and IVF to be equally repugnant.

While where we live in Florida is about as Deep South as you can go in the US, we have the benefit of being a cultural melting pot... our politics do not reflect our population very well but that's another discussion.

I worry for the women in these states as promulgators parading old narratives seek to drown out federally protected rights under the guise of protection.

Except for a seemingly exceedingly small percentage abortion isn't used as birth control. And honestly, even when it is, why does anyone think they have the right to police women's bodies? It isn't like we are at a loss for love-starved maladjusted children in the system; we need the kids in the system to gain stability and have a fighting chance.

Sometimes when people say they wish they were never born they're telling the truth. Forcing an unwanted child into the world can be a horrific life sentence for the child.

MindYourLanguage that’s... scary
More here on the response to the bill passing www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/opponents-georgia-anti-abortion-heartbeat-bill-set-sights-2020/kAFcjAxKuEyF3cJQ17cn6H/

Barracker great post.
Women are being told we are no longer able to state our biological reality as adult human females and simultaneously being denied the right to autonomy of our own bodies. Women are not vessels existing solely for the propagation of the human species.

My British friend went to live in the mid west the bible belt types were frightening there. Early to bed early to rise was their mantra. Booze was frowned upon, sex before marriage, she said it was weird.

The USA is in no way a united country.

It gets worse. Alabama will vote on a law to punish abortion with 99 year jail terms even in rape cases. The article mentions Kentucky and Mississippi as having already passed legislation similar to the Georgia bill www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alabama-abortion-crime-pregnancy-trump-administration-us-a8854716.html

I’m wondering how many women will be locked up for life after a miscarriage if they are accused of having caused it.

This is utterly disgusting, but sadly not surprising.