what do you think of Cardi B?

[traceyracer]

she has openly admitted to drugging and robbing men. is this a good example? I mean there will be a lot of young girls who will see her as a role model

@Socrates11

She makes my ears cry.

Mine too but I do take guilty pleasure from her song "Bodak Yellow". When I listen to it every time she says bitch I imagine bitch as patriarchy/misogynists.

Give me Azaelia Banks any day...212 is mega.

Agreed. However, she too refers (less so) to certain things like Cardi B that don't work within my feminist perspective.

PJ Harvey, Hole, Tori Amos... and more helped me to see myself as a powerful young woman - I don't see the same quality of female empowerment via music anymore.

I didn’t know that she drugged and robbed men but it cements my opinion of her that she is absolutely vile.

Wasn't trying to threadjack but I think I began to...

Drugging someone without their knowledge (outside of necessary medical situations) no matter what intent is wrong and should be prosecuted.

She's a flash in the pan scumbag. No way I'd let my daughter listen to the likes of her when she's older.

@StopThePlanet

Yes Azealia has got attitude in spades but I love that song.

Amos and Harvey are excellent musicians.

Personally I like to channel a mix of Janis Joplin, Grace Jones, Skin and Sinnead O Conner for female warrior mode ( - along with 70s-80s-90s rock)

Wallis Bird is particularly excellent too.

"They've even invented special nail polish for women, so women can dip a finger in the drink a man bought for them, to tell if they're about to be drugged and raped.
That's how common it is."

I don't think that nail polish is proof of how common this is, it could be whoever invented it wanted to make money out of knowing that this is a topic often discussed.

Personally I think the nail polish is just another thing that could be used for victim-blaming. If a woman falls victim to rape because of a spiked drink, are people going to say "oh well she should have used that nail polish to test the drink"?

I don't think of her often, lol

I don't think of her often, I'm a bit too old for her music, I think.

But I heartily approve of robbing johns.

Good example. I hope if your daughter is ever forced to sell her body to survive, she, too, has the independent spirit and sense of justice to rob her would-be rapists blind.

If we’re looking for a feminist angle on this I have seen someone talking about how male rappers can murder, sexually assault, sell drugs and just commit many acts violence and still be acceptable and even just part of their image. If a woman does it she’s ‘disgusting’ and ‘evil’. (This is mainly directed at those who are actually fans of the music of course)
Also the left and liberal feminism is all about how wonderful and empowering “sex work” is but when presented with the grubby reality of what goes on in the “industry” suddenly it’s unpalatable
I don’t like her music tbh and wouldn’t offer her up as someone to listen to for my daughter. I just find it eye rolling that once again we are being presented with another female figure to hate one while the male artists get shrugged away

For a slightly more serious reply - I think it's kind of terrible in general that people are looking to shallow, insipid celebrities to be their moral or political compass. I see major news outlets reporting that so-n-so rock or movie star has said such and so about this law or politician, and I think to myself, "but who cares?"
Young people, I guess. It's a blatant attempt to get young people to care and vote.