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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So many high profile women gender critical women on twitter

18 replies

Toorahtoorahaye · 01/04/2019 13:24

Many aren’t openly advertising it or tweeting about it but if you’re active on twitter and look who they follow (easiest to cross check with folk you both follow) - the results are very interesting. Don’t want to say who or draw TRAs to pile on them.

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Hellmistress · 01/04/2019 13:27

I don't have a lot of respect for women who follow and agree with gender-critical women but who can't openly express their own views. I find that very cowardly. Easy for me to say as I don't have a twitter account so I'm not risking putting my own head above the parapet over there

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 01/04/2019 13:30

Try it yourself and have your own job put at risk before you criticize others.

OrchidInTheSun · 01/04/2019 13:36

Yes, that is easy for you to say.

I'm a single parent and I would lose my job. That'd go down well at the Job Centre I'm sure Hmm

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 01/04/2019 13:39

Hellmistress clearly you fall into the category of people who can afford to lose their job. Many can’t. Don’t judge them. Not all of us work as media personalities where we can say more or less what we like. Some of us are precariously employed as it is and don’t want to make ourselves unemployable.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/04/2019 13:53

i'm quite lucky (in some ways) that my company is the least woke place on the planet. therefore i'm publicly GC on twitter. I feel I'm doing it for those that can't. although twitter is fairly awful and I'm there less and less.

Hellmistress · 01/04/2019 14:36

I'm openly gender-critical on the only SM I do use, that's Facebook and I'm there using my real name and not hiding behind an alias. This has resulted in my being unfriended by female friends I've known for decades, or thought I knew, so I do understand the cost of telling the truth as I see.

Luckily for me I am not in danger of losing my job over my gender-critical views and I admit that makes me very fortunate indeed.

OrchidInTheSun · 01/04/2019 14:42

I am openly gender critical on Facebook and have lost a lot of friends over it. But I don't post to public pages

Manderleyagain · 01/04/2019 14:44

Op that is good to hear. Are there men too?

Sarahjconnor · 01/04/2019 14:48

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OhHolyJesus · 01/04/2019 15:18

SarahJ it is really sad, I'm glad you at least have someone to whisper with. I'm openly GC on FB since leaving Twitter. I have had some push back recently from old friends and colleagues and it's interesting to hear from others as to what their reasoning is. It never centres around women, even when it comes from women. It shouldn't surprise me but it always does.

I have been openly GC at work and have been quietly warned so now I keep my mouth shut. It's hard and goes against everything I know but I am new and want to keep my job.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 01/04/2019 16:25

Women have been physically abused, had the police called on them, had pictures of their children plastered over social media. If you don’t face that risk then nice for you but I think it’s a bit rich saying you have no respect for those who do not have the mental energy to deal with this or who do not want their families and children subjected to it.

Diddleysquat · 01/04/2019 16:36

I have huge respect for anyone who is openly GC on Twitter, its a hell hole I don’t have the energy or mental health for.
I am openly GC on FB and have not lost any friends or even been questioned over it. I run my own business and we are vulnerable if TRAs decided they don’t like the way we think but that’s a battle I am prepared to fight if I ever have to.

Carowiththegoodhair · 01/04/2019 16:51

I do it because I know other people can’t and I hope that by standing up it may give others courage and stop the bullying. The TRAs thrive on a climate of fear.

That said it’s not easy and many times I have wondered whether I am doing the right thing because it does expose my family. But someone has to and I am in a better position than many.

Lumene · 01/04/2019 17:06

This has resulted in my being unfriended by female friends I've known for decades, or thought I knew, so I do understand the cost of telling the truth as I see.

I find this utterly insane that people will do this in response to women wanting to discuss protecting women’s rights. It makes no sense at all.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 01/04/2019 17:18

Like many, I'm limited as to what I can say on social media in my own name without putting my career in jeopardy. And also like many I do what I can, when and where I can.

I'm in awe of those who speak out, but would never judge anyone who doesn't.

I support those who do speak out and I try to join in the conversation on here and on other platforms anonymously. I have a second incognito twitter account. I share information and I ask questions. If enough of us take those small steps, I believe we can make a difference.

I also donate where I can.

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 01/04/2019 22:35

I know I would lose a lot of friends (not just acquaintances) if I "came out". In my line of work, that would lead to less paid work. Facing material poverty and the withdrawal of friendship (emotional support) simultaneously is not something I can risk.

Having said that, I do try to test the waters with in-person conversations, and so far have identified a couple of friends who don't buy into the total woke-ness of our crowd.

Please don't judge other people's circumstances.

justicewomen · 02/04/2019 08:38

Certainly changing and worth being braver (now much more open having been reported to my bosses with no adverse effect). Trick is to be super courteous (unsurprisingly)

Hulo · 02/04/2019 11:48

I suppose it depends on what you mean by openly gender critical. I rarely post openly criticising transgenderism but I post a lot about feminism with an emphasis on how women are oppressed by biology, gender non conformity, biological realities about male and female etc. I see it as nudging my followers - informing them so they can see the TRA nonsense for what it is, setting up potential dissonance. I suspect many of my followers are well meaning liberals.

I have lost one friend due to my terfy likes appearing in her timeline but since in a debate where she was trying to educate me she called out an article, with a total lack of empathy, where a rape survivor expressed her distress at being in a space shared with men, I feel it was no great loss.

However, I do go out and about in Twitter land weighing in on threads and debates. I think I've commented on most of the main ones discussed here! I'm honestly surprised I haven't been reported yet. It might be because no-one stalking goes beyond my time line

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