Question about transgender

[cellibabies]

Hello,

Genuine question here (not being glossy), I've bew wondering what causes a person to be transgender. I googled and this was the first thing I clicked on (via a link from Scientific American)
www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/mental-health/why-are-some-people-transgender

If anyone has time to read and explain I'd be grateful! It's a very short read that essentially says that being transgender is a 'nature' thing, not nurture, and has to do with hormone surges and foetal development. It claims to be based on solid science; I'm not sciencey so I honestly don't know and thought I'd ask here. Thanks for your time.

Sounds like a load of shit.

I haven’t even read it and I can tell you it will not be based on anything approaching “solid science”.

Article was from 2016 and the TRA bullshit hasn't moved on at all.

I mean seriously, if there was a brain scan that identified these female and male brains don't you think they would have the problem solved.

It was a two minute waste of my life reading that crap.

Sex: the body you are born with.

Gender: social norms imposed on people, depending on whether they were born female or born male, and:

Gender norms are infinitely changeable, depending on society and era and overarching social structure.

Sex still remains the same.

There is no such thing as a hard wired biological gender identity. If it existed then gender presentation would be constant across time and cultures. 'Gender' is a social construct.

If we accept that some men don't like being classed as men, why should that give them the right to erase womens sex based rights?

I've seen loads of TRAs saying that gender is culturally relative. It cannot be both biologically fixed and culturally relative. They're making it up as they go along. The only question I haven't answered yet is why.

I haven't read it but if being homosexual is nature and not nurture then why not Transgender ??

Because homosexual is a sexual orientation.

Transgender is based on made up gender roles.

How about: "people have a range of personalities, which don't always correspond with the stereotypes imposed by society". Sorted.

Or in the words of the fab Meghan Murphy:

We have a biological sex. Everything else is personality.

Well the brain is terribly plastic and will adapt to its environment. If I recall correctly, you can pick up minor differences in transbrains , although there is no evidence that those difference were present before the people began their transition. Note also that those differences do not associate with either sex. ( transwomen don’t have a difference that makes their brains look like women’s brains for example)

I kept scrolling trying to find what studies or even disciplines they had referenced but that seemed to be missing.

Societal expectation of rigid gender roles makes some people fall under the definition of Transgender.
It isn't an internal identity

Op there's a very good thread on FWR discussing male female brains. Why don you check it out.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3544046-You-have-a-mans-height

Thanks for these replies, I will read that other thread. Sorry I hadn't realised the article was from 2016. Trying to work out what I think about this whole issue atm.

I think the point is, even if there is something biological that makes some men want to comply with sexist stereotypes associated with femininity, and some women want to comply with masculine sexist stereotypes, so what?

their biological sex has not, cannot, change. So in the small number of cases where we segregate or differentiate by sex, they belong in the category that matches their biological sex.

it really is that simple

No matter what personality, clothes etc people wear or are; women will always be the ones providing the eggs and gestataing babies, and men will always provide the sperm; even if their ability to do so fails, they don't magically get the ability to do the opposite of what their bodies were born as.

Here's something for you to think about OP. What does "gender identity" mean?

You can look on the Internet and see stuff like "Gender identity is the personal sense of one's own gender". But what does that actually mean?

When you strip away gender stereotypes, you're left with something like "the degree to which a person feels that they are the opposite sex".

Being a man or a woman, male or female is a description of your biological sex. That's what it means.

Which isn't relevant to how you think or feel, in your head.

You can feel feminine, as a man. But you will still be a man.

Or maybe there is a biological propensity for some people to have gender dysphoria.

It doesn't mean they've got a female brain, in a male body.

It's sci-fi nonsense.