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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let toys be toys fb post 31st March

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NeurotrashWarrior · 31/03/2019 22:11

Odd/ interesting post shared by LTBT this evening.

lettoysbetoys.org.uk/gendered-toys-a-transgender-perspective/

One of those moments where you think - well yes, I agree to a point. Wtf is this?

Interesting that the writer's perception here isn't that the toys were how I knew. Unlike Jazz etc today for example. But that they were forbidden and 'naughty.' And also not being allowed to play with them made 'coming out' harder. Glaring omission that the experiences might have caused the need to transition but not our place to judge really.

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Candidpeel · 31/03/2019 22:20

It's from 2013 Confused

AnyOldPrion · 31/03/2019 22:20

“Being punished before I was three for wanting to play in the ”wrong” role was almost certainly behind my lack of confidence in coming out as transgender.”

Or perhaps “Being bullied before I was three for wanting to play in the ”wrong” role was almost certainly behind the gender dysphoria, which due to dubious advice from doctors, has led me to transition.”

Whatsnewpussyhat · 31/03/2019 22:22

Or homophobic parents who didn't want a girly son.

Candidpeel · 31/03/2019 22:23

Oh yes - from the archives - for trans viability day.

AnyOldPrion · 31/03/2019 22:30

Or homophobic parents who didn't want a girly son.

Doesn’t appear to have been the case here. The writer describes their parents as liberal minded, accepting l and supportive.

It’s just another very sad story of a bullied child. I’ve still never, ever come across a transition story that didn’t mention this type of bullying.

plattercake · 31/03/2019 23:03

'forbidden and naughty'

"The third time I was holding a Hamble type doll which was grabbed away from me and I was smacked or scolded"

Just some thoughts....Shame/ humiliation. Identity formation/ awareness of self happening around 3-4 years. Narcissistic wounding. Approval/ rejection and trauma and shock causing behaviour (sudden inexplicable smacking, confusion as other children can play with the toy, use of "bad boy"?), from parents and caregivers. Loss of trusting attachment. Homophobia or rigid gender role beliefs intensify the parents/care givers shocking response. All of above shocking and/or shaming to a soft and trusting child's mind.. appeasement of angry/rigid parent or caregiver or whatever it takes to maintain an attachment is instinctively key to child's survival. Deep confusion over what the rules mean and why they exist, people's behaviour (linked to autistic difficulties) "bad boy - good boy". Child makes what (little) sense of it they can but are misguided by (natural) magical thinking and child-logic.

Shaming at this age sometimes contributing to fetishes later in life?

We don't all see our parents or upbringing the way others might so that this person feels their parents were liberal might not be a completely objective view.

Lettera · 01/04/2019 00:08

Candid

Trans viability day Grin

Yeahnahyeah · 01/04/2019 00:43

Off topic slightly, but I watched a Benjamin Boyce interview with Ray Blanchard recently, where Ray talked about fetishes and possible causes for them. He gave an example of amputee fetishists (yes, it's a thing Confused). Often they recalled the impact (shock, basically) of seeing an amputee for the first time as a very young child.

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 01/04/2019 13:11

I couldn't believe this tweet from Let Toys Be Toys:

twitter.com/LetToysBeToys/status/1112454995000131584

???

ErrolTheDragon · 01/04/2019 13:20

Many appalled responses - I'm almost tempted to join twitter to add mine.Sad

I participated in the original MN thread which was the genesis of LTBT and have linked to them many times thereafter, this tweet is a betrayal of the campaign's core principles.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 01/04/2019 13:21

Yet they posted this today.

"There isn’t just one way or a right way to be a girl."

Confused
ErrolTheDragon · 01/04/2019 13:23

Maybe they have more than one person who can post with their handle?

beeyourself · 01/04/2019 14:48

I'm raging about them promoting that book! It seems to be completely in opposition to everything they've said before.

I saw a tweet by one of the founders of LTBT slating it too.

AnyOldPrion · 01/04/2019 16:14

Maybe the account has been hacked. It’s not their first TRA tweet.

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