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ClingFilmApplications · 31/03/2019 14:33

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Lichtie · 31/03/2019 14:44

I'm not sure what you mean by never the other way round? They started by creating cards for mothers on fathers day and have now expanded it (presumably because it was successful or why do it) to include cards for single fathers on mother's day. Hard to take offence really

barelove · 31/03/2019 14:47

Hilarious!

They'll be telling us trans women are women next!

Wait, What? Confused

ClingFilmApplications · 31/03/2019 14:51

Not offended - I just think when you get to that stage you have to wonder what's the point in having recognition for anyone - like schoolteachers who declare "you're all winners" after a sports race.

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Lichtie · 31/03/2019 14:59

But it's something that kids (or partners) do for their parents. Granted there are a lot of shit parents out there who probably get cards, giving birth doesn't make someone a good parent and any more deserving of recognition from anyone. Isn't saying mothers should get a day just the same as saying everyone is a winner?

ClingFilmApplications · 31/03/2019 15:35

No.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 31/03/2019 15:57

I think it's ridiculous. I'm a widow. My DC no longer have a DF. Despite that I've never felt left out that I don't get a Father's Day card. Weird that. Hmm

barelove · 31/03/2019 16:02

Isn't saying mothers should get a day just the same as saying everyone is a winner?

I see what you're getting at - that it's potentially saying (indiscriminately of what kind of Mother you are), all Mothers are winners today! But it's not really like that because ALL Mothers don't get cards or flowers, just the one's that are appreciated by someone. So going by the analogy (if i'm using that word correctly??!) some Mothers will win today and some will lose Sad

I used to ignore the day for myself, thinking it was just a money spinning thing, but I'm coming round to enjoying the national focus (albeit for one paltry day) on a role that is severely undermined and undervalued for the rest of the year.

Happy Bless the Mothers Day Brew Flowers

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 31/03/2019 16:17

I used to ignore the day for myself, thinking it was just a money spinning thing, but I'm coming round to enjoying the national focus (albeit for one paltry day) on a role that is severely undermined and undervalued for the rest of the year.

Yes me too.

Happy Mother’s Day to all the other women who are Mums Flowers

SimonJT · 31/03/2019 16:19

Fathers day cards for single mothers have been around for years.

barelove · 31/03/2019 16:24

Fathers day cards for single mothers have been around for years

So have sports days where 'everyone's a winner!'. Doesn't mean they make any sense. What do think SimonJT?

LassOfFyvie · 31/03/2019 16:42

But it's not really like that because ALL Mothers don't get cards or flowers, just the one's that are appreciated by someone

My mother-in-law and I don't get and my mother didn't get cards on on "Mothers' day" not because we aren't appreciated but because we think it is a ridiculous , over- hyped marketing excuse to sell tat marked as "perfect for Mothers' day.

barelove · 31/03/2019 16:59

LassOfFyvie

Yes! I'm with you on that one Smile. I was just cutting corners to make my point. I know my teenage son appreciates me but I never get a card and I don't get my Mum one because we don't want to buy into the corporate thing. I still like the acknowledgement of it though for the reason I gave.

JackyHolyoake · 31/03/2019 17:01

Mothers' Day and Fathers' Day are USA marketing devices to make more profit for capitalism.

barelove · 31/03/2019 17:18

JackyHolyoake

I'm sure USA marketing devices...make more profit for capitalism from Mothers day, but only because people spend their money on cards and gifts. You don't have to spend a penny to acknowledge the day if you don't want to support the corporate monster.

Conversation, attention and hugs are what make me feel appreciated.

picklemepopcorn · 31/03/2019 17:30

Mothering Sunday is a 700 yr old festival. Originally about returning to your mother church, then additionally to your family, before the focus was turned entirely to our mothers.

LassOfFyvie · 31/03/2019 17:32

*You don't have to spend a penny to acknowledge the day if you don't want to support the corporate monster.

I don't want to acknowledge the day in any way. I find the whole idea of one special day absolutely ridiculous.

barelove · 31/03/2019 17:52

I don't want to acknowledge the day in any way. I find the whole idea of one special day absolutely ridiculous

I get that too. I like to think that we all (females and males) would get all our needs for love and attention met when ever they arise by the people that surround us. If we lived in healthy, functioning communities we might well see that one special day as being ridiculous.

I think that our communities are just not that healthy when it comes to acknowledging the importance of our relationship with our mothers. Having a day that focuses our attention on this relationship hopefully sees benefits for the people involved (not just the profiteering businesses)

CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/03/2019 17:59

And it is NOT Mothers Day! It is Mothering Sunday... a historical thing!

So you can ALL keep your trans / Americanised hands off it

Lamaha · 31/03/2019 18:03

Today my daughter and I watched Songs of Praise, which of course focused on Mother's Day. It was very moving. I loved hearing some of the hymns from my childhood, and it was lovely seeing how the singers were uplifted by the singing. They interviews a few mothers: a black women who had fostered a horde of children, at least ten, I think, who spoke of loving them and giving them a home. Extremely moving. Even if you're not a Christian (I'm not) -- it touched the heart.

Happy mother's day to all mums here today! Flowers And bless you.

WeRiseUp · 31/03/2019 18:12

My mum never celebrated it, but I remember one year when I was a kid I spontaneously got her a slightly naff heart-shaped porcelain pot with a mothers day poem on the lid. I was really surprised that she kept it on her dressing table and positioned it in a way that suggested it actually meant a lot to her.

I think she should have dropped the principles about 'commercialisation', etc and got into it. So I get into it.

I called her this morning and it was a nice bonding thing. Being mums.

Flowers to mums.

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