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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“Trans day of visibility” being on Mother’s Day

59 replies

Dyrne · 31/03/2019 10:22

All right, I know it’s probably because the Trans day of visibility thing is American driven and their Mother’s Day isn’t today...

But i’m feeling petty, and it feels like announcing today as the Trans Day of visibility feels like one more way to say “budge up women, we’re sharing your day; please focus on us today, no one cares anout what your uteruses have done; not all women have uteruses you know” etc etc.

My local police force have made a Facebook post showing a photo of them proudly flying the Trans flag at their HQ. So far absolutely nothing recognising all the mothers that work for them.

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Dyrne · 31/03/2019 11:56

Aargh “Gender non-conforming” - what does that even mean? I’m wearing trousers today and no makeup, so does that mean TVP are flying the flag for me today as well?

Posting here has helped me articulate why I’m so annoyed - it’s not so much the fact that the days happened to have coincided, it’s once again seeing that where organisations could easily have acknowledged both, they’ve prioritised Trans Visibility day and given no mention of Mothers.

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AncientLights · 31/03/2019 12:11

Dyrne please stay out of your box. It is a coincidence that the 2 days have fallen on the same day but may be telling how some orgs mark one and ignore the other.

Does anyone know if they produce 'happy trans visibility day' cards? Just interested, not planning on buying. OTOH it could be a good business idea and I could donate the money to Vancouver Rape Relief. Grin

Dothehappydance · 31/03/2019 12:14

So it’s only annoying like once every seven years?

Not even that probably, as the date of Mother's Day is in relation to Easter which moves.

I am staying away from FB ion the whole today, my mum isn't on there so any posts would be virtue signalling and for many of my friends it will be a difficult day and I went to bed last night having been 'told' to get over the fact that a woman can have a penis.

And I will start ranting about Brexit and green waste collections no doubt

AdultHuman · 31/03/2019 12:15

The search option in moonpig gives zero results for 'trans'.

It would appear wokesters are happy to Tweet about trans issues and aren't so keen to put their money where their mouth is.

LimeKiwi · 31/03/2019 13:29

Mother's Day changes every year though, if the trans day is on 31st of March every year as a pp said, then surely it hasn't been done as a "they won't even let us have one day!" as someone said upthread.
Coincidence, and really nothing sinister

over50andfab · 31/03/2019 13:49

I really don’t care if Trans day of visibility is the same day as Mother’s Day, and - I might be mistaken - but haven’t seen any trans people asking the same thing. Rather I’ve seen messages from them on social media celebrating their mums Flowers

LimeKiwi · 31/03/2019 13:56

Exactly, over50. Everyone can have their day, they celebrate their mums too

Lockheart · 31/03/2019 14:30

I did see this on twitter earlier and it got a wry smile, but it's clearly just coincidence.

Thinking about it, the UK's Mothering Sunday is a moveable feast, whereas TDOV is ALWAYS on 31 March. So it could be argued we're stealing TDOV's thunder and not the other way around Wink

ChattyLion · 31/03/2019 14:37

Happy Mothers’ day to all Flowers

MenuPlant · 31/03/2019 14:45

Happy today for all who identify as mothers! Including gestators.

GrumpyGran8 · 31/03/2019 16:40

Is there a significance to 31 March at all?
Nothing that I can find. It was the date of the first TDV march, in 2009, so the organisers kept it.

whiteroseredrose · 31/03/2019 16:46

Wondering if I'm the only person who thinks that trans day of visibility is unnecessary because we can generally spot if someone is trans. They rarely look like the gender that they want to be. So they're actually visible all year round.

over50andfab · 31/03/2019 17:12

“International Transgender Day of Visibility is an annual event occurring on March 31 dedicated to celebrating transgender people and raising awareness of discrimination faced by transgender people worldwide.”

Perhaps this is seen as unnecessary to some - but then it might be more relevant to those who wish to celebrate it or are affected by it.

“Mothering Sunday is the fourth Sunday of Lent. Although it's often called Mothers' Day it has no connection with the American festival of that name.

Traditionally, it was a day when children, mainly daughters, who had gone to work as domestic servants were given a day off to visit their mother and family.

Today it is a day when children give presents, flowers, and home-made cards to their mothers.“

So this day has actually evolved from what it used to be, and for the same reasons stated above - ie seen as necessary by those involved. .

Yossarian22 · 31/03/2019 18:44

Whiterose😀
A day of invisibility doesn’t quite have the same needy ring to it though.

LimeKiwi · 31/03/2019 19:31

Some of these comments show exactly why they'll feel there is a need for awareness, and it's a bit of a literal take to think it's literally about visible/invisible.
It'll mean to raise awareness and understanding I'd have thought.

hipsterfun · 31/03/2019 19:42

it's a bit of a literal take to think it's literally about visible/invisible.

No shit!

Maybe, just maybe, it was intended as humour...

MenuPlant · 31/03/2019 19:48

Over 50 I thought mothering Sunday was originally about going back to your 'mother' church?

littlecabbage · 31/03/2019 19:48

Have just checked, and I'm pleased to report that my local police force is tweeting "Happy Mothers Day" and asking us to think of all those mothers working in this police force today. No mention of trans day at all.

LimeKiwi · 31/03/2019 19:51

Maybe humour, but reducing it to looks and taking the piss out of appearance is maybe a subjective branch of humour. Each to their own though, what I find funny you probably won't. Humour's subjective and all that.

placemats · 31/03/2019 19:53

I don't understand trans visibility because surely the whole point of being trans is to fit in with the sex/gender you desire to be.

A mother is very visible though. As humans we have always celebrated motherhood; a civilised society ensures that mothers get the rewards they so obviously deserve.

Mother of three signing off.

MenuPlant · 31/03/2019 19:56

Meanwhile mothers are blamed for pretty much all the problems in society.

And when I had small children I found quite a lot of people were aggressive towards me in a way they hadn't been when I was by myself.

hipsterfun · 31/03/2019 19:58

I’m not amused by ‘woman’ being reduced to appearance and mannerisms as it happens, but do run it by the West Yorkshire Police Mild Pisstaking Unit if it bothers you Grin

RoseAndRose · 31/03/2019 20:00

"it’s only annoying like once every seven years?"

Way less than that, as Mothering Sunday date is tied in with Easter.

Next time Easter is on 21 April (so Mothering Sunday on 31 March) is 2030. After that 2041. 2052, then not again until 2109

Yossarian22 · 31/03/2019 20:06

Lime it seems humour is subjective but not when it comes to claiming biological males have female souls and sex is assigned at birth. We’re all supposed to accept that crock of with hallowed reverence.

Yossarian22 · 31/03/2019 20:10

Doesn’t like asterisks- so I’ll rewrite it, s**t 😀

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