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Article in The Times re 'feminist split over sex work'

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/03/2019 10:21

I don't think there's a thread on this, I'll put the link in the next post for anyone interested.

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/03/2019 10:21

Sting at strip club lays bare feminist split over sex work

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sting-at-spearmint-rhino-lays-bare-feminist-split-over-sex-work-g9fffxwnm?shareToken=9e54c9b21720d0984457d83cecd83f16

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nettie434 · 31/03/2019 10:35

Thanks for link Errol. This has always been controversial (and glad article referred to Gloria Steinem) but it seems more prominent now. There was that incident about sex workers being at a freshers fair wasn’t there? Of course it’s all very well to complain that it’s doing women out of a job but what happens when they are replaced by younger women?

QuentinWinters · 31/03/2019 19:59

I think it's hilarious that it refers to "operatives" at the end. As if feminists are some kind of military movement Grin
As for the article...doesn't surprise me, I bet online porn has hit strip clubs hard so they are having to bend their own rules. I didn't like the implication that anti-porn feminists are all old though.

moofolk · 31/03/2019 20:19

Gah the young! Closing strip clubs is 'putting women out of work'.

Yep, some good deep critical analysis there. I see our higher education system is doing great work.

Thesepreciousthings · 31/03/2019 21:34

Maybe the ‘young’ feminist groups should examine the economic reasons some women find themselves in sex work. Women being hit harder than men through austerity and so forth. Protesting/researching that might be of better use than arguing that closing down strip clubs is ‘unfeminist’ due to subsequent unemployment.

Also, I struggle to reconcile the libfem ideas of sexual ‘liberation’ when perceived choice is made against a backdrop of sexual oppression. That some women are complicit in their own oppression is neither here nor there and this should not be dressed up as agency. It is, to me, a far better use of time to try and break down the oppression that keeps these clubs open and often thriving.

I’m 30. Is that old enough to believe that in fact, sex work is not work?

As an aside, it was these kind of sex positive assertions that kept me from joining the (liberal) feminist society at uni 5-8 years ago.

NotAJellyBaby · 31/03/2019 23:53

That some women are complicit in their own oppression is neither here nor there and this should not be dressed up as agency.

This needs to be on a meme or something.

stumbledin · 01/04/2019 00:12

Very, very disappointed that the Times should title this article about exposing the hypocrasy of Strip Clubs as it somehow being some sort of tiff between feminists.

It is an expose of women being prostituted via clubs that local councils are licencing.

You can get more information about the campaign group Not Buying It at notbuyingit.org.uk/

As well as the work that Object are doing - see www.objectnow.org/

There is also an online interview with Sasha Rakoff about the expose of Spearmint Rhino filia.org.uk/podcasts/2019/3/31/filia-meets-dr-sasha-rakoff

zanahoria · 01/04/2019 08:02

Feminists paying men to go to strip clubs?

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