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Who is the trans academic who cited own work under previous name?

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MsTiggywinkletoyou · 28/03/2019 14:05

IIRC the paper was written under the current (female) name, and included a list of references, including to previous papers written by the same person under the previous name (I think a different surname as well as first name). So any reader would think, oh, this academic is drawing on a wide variety of sources, but actually it was stealth self-citation.

I am thinking of one recent example (London?) but there may well be others.

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MsTiggywinkletoyou · 28/03/2019 14:07

PS Other examples of non-trans academics doing a similar stealth self-citation would also be welcome. How did women who married and changed their name handle the situation? There must be a protocol for handling name-changes honourably and above-board.

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RepealTheGRA · 28/03/2019 14:07

Natasha Kennedy I believe co writes papers with himself, Mark Hellen?

HerFemaleness · 28/03/2019 14:07

Natacha Kennedy?

terryleather · 28/03/2019 14:07

Is it Natacha Kennedy..?

terryleather · 28/03/2019 14:07

Superduper xposts!

crsacre · 28/03/2019 14:08

Natacha Kennedy coauthors with himself, or perhaps I should say that Mark Hellen coauthors with herself?

itgl.lu/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Kennedy-and-Hellen-Transgender-Children.pdf

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222

WeRiseUp · 28/03/2019 14:10

Natacha Kennedy aka Mark Helen also has 2 separate ids live at the university.
Also was the ring leader of the Facebook group trying to identify and oust wrong think academics in UK universities.
Also took an active part in protesting against Julie Bindel.

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 28/03/2019 14:10

That's the one I was thinking of. Co-authoring papers with themselves? Beyond the pale.
lesbianalliance.org.uk/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics/

But there may be others.

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WeRiseUp · 28/03/2019 14:11

Also of irresistible dupers delight smile.

WeRiseUp · 28/03/2019 14:12

Irrepressible that was supposed to be (autocorrect)

KatvonfeelzlikeaMAN · 28/03/2019 14:41

How come they get to dead name themselves? Eh?

Spokk · 28/03/2019 14:47

Ah, but deadnaming yourself appears to be quite common snd very acceptable, but God forbid anyone else should use your actual previous name

Yambabe · 28/03/2019 19:26

Didn't Heather Peto do that (reference their own work in their deadname) too?

Toorahtoorahaye · 28/03/2019 20:23

Natacha also plotted on a closed Fb group to remove the wrong kind of feminists from the Wiki Feminist page and replace them with the right thinking male feminists who identify as women.

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 29/03/2019 00:11

I did not know about the wiki-fiddling. How can this be countered?

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ErrolTheDragon · 29/03/2019 00:52

Other examples of non-trans academics doing a similar stealth self-citation would also be welcome. How did women who married and changed their name handle the situation? There must be a protocol for handling name-changes honourably and above-board.

I think you just cite papers with the names as published, but nowadays I guess you'd have the same ORCID associated with former and current name. Women who've already got significant publications tend not to change their professional name, though, even if they do socially.

Actually co-authoring with yourself seems like something that shouldn't ever be allowed.

ChiaraRimini · 29/03/2019 08:22

How the hell did that get past peer review anyway? May have just answered my own question lol

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 29/03/2019 08:42

Didn't Heather Peto do that (reference their own work in their deadname) too?

I think they did something like that. I remember seeing post-Heather use of Warren used by Peto themself, can't remember if it was co-authored or not.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/03/2019 09:19

Citing your previous work is fine if it is relevant.

If your name has changed in the interim, for whatever reason, then I don't think there's anything you can do but reference with the names as published. Nowadays you usually put in a link to the doi or whatever.

I don't think there is any mechanism to make it clear to a reader that Dr Y used to be Dr X - but the automatic citation stats would hopefully make use of the ORCID which I'd hope would be the same.

So I'm not quite sure (other than obviously 'co-authoring' with yourself is a nonsense) what anyone things could or should be done about citing your previous work under a different name? Confused

Oldermum156 · 29/03/2019 17:53

I don't have a link but one of my favorite stories in this regard is of a transman whose colleagues didn't recognize him and thought his "deadnamed" earlier work was that of his "sister", and would talk within his hearing about how his work was so much better and how he was clearly smarter. He wrote an article exposing them for their sexism :P

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 29/03/2019 22:21

nice story oldermum

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