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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LetClothesBeClothes targeted for daring to follow GC woman

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Bluestitch · 26/03/2019 23:43

Just came across this twitter thread thanks to Glinner. It just shows how Orwellian this whole thing has become. Look at Aidan Comerford (who I despise even more than Harrop) immediately trying to see how he can get this organisation in trouble for wrong think. Luckily most of the responses are supportive because the tide is turning but it's still chilling to read.

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Bluestitch · 26/03/2019 23:43

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Bluestitch · 26/03/2019 23:49

Couple of Comerford's tweets where he is trying to get them in 'trouble' with the larger organisation.

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EluphNaugeMeop · 26/03/2019 23:51

Interesting development. I have long found it weird that my most handmaideny pro-trans acquaintances on FB will love every meme from let toys be toys and let clothes be clothes and yet will also rant about evil terfs (I am not "out" on fb in the Spartacus sense) and love memes which basically affirm that if your body shape doesn't match your toy/clothes preferences then you need surgery - these seem diametrically opposed.

Bluestitch · 26/03/2019 23:54

I'm surprised that anybody would be shocked that an organisation which wants to end gender stereotyping might align with GC views!

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NoseringGirl · 26/03/2019 23:57

They handled that brilliantly!

ErrolTheDragon · 26/03/2019 23:57

I wonder how/if Let Toys be Toys will respond - I'm not sure who runs it nowadays, but I have some idea where the campaign was born ...Wink

ErrolTheDragon · 26/03/2019 23:58

Meant to add, good to see attempted bullying backfiring!

Bluestitch · 27/03/2019 00:04

This is shocking misogyny from Comerford. Brings up abortion rights and then when she states she's actually had an abortion dismisses it as irrelevant. I've seen this type of thing a lot with so called leftie bros, they want to use women's struggles such as reproductive rights, period poverty etc to claim brownie points or claim they are feminists but often don't want to hear about women's actual experience with these issues, especially if they are non compliant women.

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MotherForkinShirtBalls · 27/03/2019 00:05

God, that Comerfucker gives me such incredible hulk rage. How he can't see the vulnerability of his own daughters with special needs when this shit hits the fan properly over here is beyond me.

Anyway brava to letclothes today, excellent twittering Flowers

pombear · 27/03/2019 00:22

This is slightly hilarious (in a sad way) in showing the bonkers idelogy that is trans activism.

Trans activists need gender stereotypes and boxes, and they need most of us to 'stay' in those boxes, so they can put people into them and call them 'cis'/trans/non binary' and therefore jump into said boxes they want to identify into.

Meanwhile, the mums who started Let toys be toys and let clothes be clothes are all about knocking down boxes and stereotypes and giving children the freedom to like what they like, wear what they like, without it being assigned to boxes of 'that's for girls' and 'that's for boys'.

Recognising there are only stereotypical boxes. All we are are our biological sex, eveything else is imposed assumptions and opinions.

And still the gender police start coming for them. They'e just. Not. Getting. It.

Hey people. Your sex doesn't need to define what things you like to play with or wear. Hence why Let toys be toys and Let clothes be clothes came into existence! Doh!

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pombear · 27/03/2019 00:33

Gender stereotypes are when certain characteristics, such as preferring a colour or an activity, are applied to an entire gender. For example, ‘all girls like pink’ is a very common stereotype.

Let clothes be clothes statement:
Stereotypes like this can often be limiting to young people. They can split the population into male and female and can make people feel uncomfortable about enjoying things that are not perceived as being ‘normal’ for their gender.

This can influence choices of toys, colours, hobbies, subjects studied and even career paths."

Let Toys be Toys statement:
Let Toys Be Toys is asking the toy and publishing industries to stop limiting children’s interests by promoting some toys and books as only suitable for girls, and others only for boys.
Toys are for fun, for learning, for stoking imagination and encouraging creativity. Children should feel free to play with the toys that most interest them.

Isn’t it time that shops stopped limiting children’s imagination by telling them what they ought to play with?

The answer is simple – we’re asking retailers, booksellers and manufacturers to sort and label toys and books by theme or function, rather than by gender, and let the children decide which toys they enjoy best.

Yep, these are terrible terrible transphobic campaigns to align with Hmm

Ask yourself, readers of this thread, who's agenda needs children to sign-up to strict gender stereotypes in what you play with and what you wear?

shakedown · 27/03/2019 01:53

It's funny cos I and a good few other people who were heavily involved in LCBC would say that the person who runs their twitter account's brand is very much about shutting women down.

GeordieGenes · 27/03/2019 02:42

It's baffling that anyone would think that this account wouldn't be gender critical? They spend all day criticizing gender stereotypes FFS.

Ereshkigal · 27/03/2019 07:11

Hey people. Your sex doesn't need to define what things you like to play with or wear. Hence why Let toys be toys and Let clothes be clothes came into existence! Doh!

Exactly. Not the sharpest tools in the box, these men, are they? That's the essence of what "gender critical" stands for.

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 27/03/2019 07:35

It's funny cos I and a good few other people who were heavily involved in LCBC would say that the person who runs their twitter account's brand is very much about shutting women down.

Are you going to expand on this, or just leave that little snippet hanging?

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 27/03/2019 07:37

Trans activists need gender stereotypes and boxes, and they need most of us to 'stay' in those boxes, so they can put people into them and call them 'cis'/trans/non binary' and therefore jump into said boxes they want to identify into.

Exactly this! If there are no gender boxes, then there is nothing left to 'identify' into is there?

Aiden Comerford is such a vile little misogynist who seems to have found the perfect outlet.

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 27/03/2019 07:38

Aidan

DpWm · 27/03/2019 08:11

Aidan Comerford is such a vile little misogynist who seems to have found the perfect outlet

An astonishingly common trait in TRA....

DpWm · 27/03/2019 08:20

The thread is amazing one exchange with a horrid bully and then about 600 new followers !

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AstonishedFemalePersonator · 27/03/2019 08:31

A TRA being misogynist? That never happens!

Congratulations to LetClothesBeClothes and LetToysBeToys. I salute you for ignoring gender stereotypes.

OldCrone · 27/03/2019 08:36

I have long found it weird that my most handmaideny pro-trans acquaintances on FB will love every meme from let toys be toys and let clothes be clothes and yet will also rant about evil terfs

I've come to the conclusion that it's because they don't understand the difference between gender and sex, but since they refuse to discuss anything with us it's impossible to find out what they really think. Or even if they've done any thinking at all.

Ereshkigal · 27/03/2019 08:46

They frequently don't grasp what the gender critical position actually is, or what it might mean to reject gender entirely.

drspouse · 27/03/2019 08:48

From being in the LTBT science group, the mods/admins of the SM account are very careful to keep off the trans grass. There are loads of "my child can wear what they want but if he says he's a girl then he's a girl despite being 4" types in there, and plenty of GC people too.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 27/03/2019 08:50

Well, they’ve got a new FB follower in me!

Stupid eejits, do they really think an organisation who’s remit is specifically to challenge sexist stereotyping in clothing is going to support an ideology that resist on that selfsame sexist stereotyping?

Ereshkigal · 27/03/2019 08:51

I thought that might be the case. It must be tough to keep a lid on that.