Being a woman is scary - Guardian article

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www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2019/mar/25/being-a-woman-is-scary-the-unspoken-danger-of-declining-a-mans-advances

Although, of course, being a TRANS woman is scarier.

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on a Guardian link.
What a pile of shite.

I wonder how many transwomen are regularly/frequently rejecting advances from heterosexual men?

I mean, let's just ignore the evidence that being a lesbian turning down a trans person is terrifyingly dangerous and that trans people are being advised to hide their genitals during sex orgies to protect themselves from the dangers of a gay man not being too pleased to find out that his partner isn't male...

She has a Twitter thread.

twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1109971148907773952

From JJ:

"Jesus Christ... read the replies in this thread. Let this be an education to everyone out there about our experience as the disrespected/disregarded gender. I’m so sorry to you all for what you’ve been put through for daring to govern your own vagina".

The first response is to say that some women don't have vaginas.

This has become the woke house style but its just bad journalism to throw in the claim about certain groups without any more evidence than saying its "well documented". It distracts from the main point of the argument.

Also does that awful thing of grouping women of colour in with trans women. I’d be so pissed off if I was a black woman at being chucked in with trans women all the time.

When you read definitions of womxn, the x makes it more inclusive of trans and black women.

My daughter was gobsmacked when she read that "omg how racist, they think black women aren't women". It's not a division I have ever heard a woman make.

Generalized statements are usually offensive. This one is hugely so.

Trans women face huge amounts of violence mainly due to sex work. I believe there was a Brazilian study that proved this. To compare this to the violence that women of colour experience is so offensive I don't even know where to begin.

God the number of people on that Twitter thread swooping in to tell Jameela that not all women have vaginas. Fuck off.

And then the appropriation of women who have had cancer, or who have a birth abnormality begins, lumping transwomen with a cock and balls in with them. Just no.

Deborah Orr, Guardian journalist, has had quite enough recently, I see.

twitter.com/DeborahJaneOrr/status/1109134678253101056

"I no longer pretend to believe that people with male reproductive organs and bodies are born female. I'm sorry that I ever did".

and

twitter.com/DeborahJaneOrr/status/1109132617000062976

"The moment I decided I was done was when I suggested to Paris Lees that some of women's concerns did need to be addressed and she told me: "You're either with us or against us." So, here I am. Where Paris insisted I should be".

Deborah

“Being a woman is scary’: the unspoken danger of declining men’s advances into women’s spaces.”
There you go JJ have a go at writing something intelligent about that.
As for lumping me in with TW and sex workers on the basis of my skin colour- why?????

Deborah Orr has been going OFF on Twitter lately. Excellent.

The first response is to say that some women don't have vaginas

Ugh, I hate these sanctimonious arseholes. The tone is very similar to mansplaining, except it’s not just men who do it. I guess you could call it transplaining.

Haworthia we could just call it misogyny. This whole "movement" is misogynistic to its core.

Impressed by Deborah Orr! People are finding the courage to speak out.

Hooray for Deborah Orr! She is very courageous to say that she has changed her mind. I hope others follow suit.

the x makes it more inclusive of trans and black women

Black women don't need an X in the word, they are WOMEN.

(Admittedly I'm a white person and if a woman of colour wants to come on and tell me she'd rather have an X, I would listen)

Yay Deborah, I knew you'd get there!💖💖💖🥂

She has been going Full Metal Jacket on Twitter lately, doesn't give a fuck.

At last - an admission that the allies are "pretending". Thank you for being so honest, Deborah.

So "having a non-white skin colour" in their world is akin to "having a penis"?

The lumping in of black women with trans women just seems so racist to me?

Interesting what Deborah Orr said about Paris Lees there. It says a lot really doesnt it? For people who so staunchly claim to be women, they don't actually give a shit about women or women's rights.

'Woman' is just a concept for them, something to step into, to colonise and appropriate. The idea that women are actual humans with a material reality, with their own desires, their own rights, their own definition, is alien to these people. 'Woman' only exists as something to be defined by them.

I've been watching Deborah Orr for the past few weeks, inching closer and closer. All the trans lobby had to do to keep her on side was to show a modicum of sense and respect. They really do breathe new life into the word 'stupid'. I think it's marvellous that Paris Lees was the one who tipped her over the edge.

Lol at Deborah getting peaked by Paris.

I think everyone who went on the Island with Paris got peaked too. Happy memories

I think Deborah said

I have joined that extremist group. Female Don’t bother trying to,rescue me happy here

I'm looking forward to more of the same now that Paris Lees is a columnist for Vogue. What could possibly go wrong?