Children suspended for removing cctv cameras from unisex toilets.

[LarryGreysonsDoor]

metro.co.uk/2019/03/23/students-suspended-for-ripping-down-cctv-cameras-in-school-unisex-toilet-8995831/

And whoever is manning the cameras

Yeah, I wouldn’t be happy to see cameras in toilets. It would indicate that it was a known problem area.
And are they live monitored or to ‘help’ after something has happened, so no bloody good to me anyway.

And what areas are they covering? If everything, are they hack proof? Who has access to the images? How secure are those images?

Poor bloody kids. No privacy.

Qwertylass

So a girl who knows or senses she is bleeding through may get a “one off” to run to the toilet, but of course now rest of the class know she is an “exception” and must have issues? From the time I started menstruating through my early 30s I soaked through pads & ultra tampons in less than two hours. I would have been humiliated as a teen if my classmates knew I had to go to toilet for that.

Or any student with diarrhea or who knows what else may get the same treatment, they are a one off for “special reasons” as otherwise no one gets to go?

I find it appalling when teachers think part of their job of educating involves denying their students toileting needs or humiliating them.

They are fine. Never had a child wee, poo,bleed or vomit in class.

@Qwertylass a terrible attitude. Thank fuck you're not my dc teacher as I would not like you at all.

Thankfully they are very progressive at dd1 school...If you need the toilet you are actually allowed to go.

@Roller
They are fine. Year 5 so not too many on periods. They get reminders to go at break and never have to hold on that long.

I think the cameras only covered the shared areas, like the sinks.
Also the cubicles were floor to ceiling, like little rooms.

Angry, scared and powerless children sometimes shout and break things. These kids, like the non-breaky but vocal climate protesters, are expressing their horror at what kind of world adults are forcing on them and will leave them to deal with.

It's been known for some time that the presence of security cameras can heighten unease: www.theguardian.com/society/2012/oct/30/cctv-increases-peoples-sense-anxiety

I know this isn't the point of this thread but I really hate reading crap like this about teachers who have no empathy. I wrote this on another thread about the pathetic rules that they have at my daughters' school. Prefects guarding toilets, permitting 2 or 3 girls in at a time (usually their mates) it means that there very often is not time at breaks for girls to change pads and they have to go out of lessons. My daughter has had awful heavy periods and has flooded repeatedly. I would have found it hard to deal with at my age, let alone at 12/13/14. To hear so-called teachers saying "change at break" infuriates me. I honestly hope you aren't really a teacher.

Probably not a good idea to divulge toilet accidents on this thread.

You can tell the girls who have started their period. If they say it quietly with that look then the chances are they need to go. The ones who shout across the class disrupting class get a no.

And yet because your rule is “no one gets to go”, the girls who say it quietly loudly announce without words to all they are on their period.

Also interesting that you expect girls to conform to expectations of being “demure” and quiet in order to not ruffle feathers and if they do play along they get a small handout as a reward (the ability to go to a toilet). Yeah, and we wonder where these stereotypes of women being “quiet, calm, and nurturing” come from.../s

@Feminist

They are 10, perfectly capable of waiting for a toilet until break

If we had had this set up at school no way would I as an 11 year old girl used toilets with 16 year old boys in a group in the doorway . I would have been too afraid.

Qwertylass I've worked with teachers with your attitude. One of them was severely disciplined after a year 6 pupil wet themselves in class Infront of the other kids.

Small kids run round at morning break, drink loads of water or juice and then end up not able to go to the toilet for hours.

Also not much of a mystery why as an adult I regularly see men getting more pay and pay rises over women with the justification that the former was “very demanding about it” and the latter “did not ask”.

My daughter's school has unisex toilets but they are fully enclosed including the sink and the doors go on to the corridor. It's a small school though so has less pupils to deal with.

My girl has a toilet pass both for medical issues and also flooding and still has teachers who refuse to let her go.
It is the one thing that really gets my back up.

Wrong if she has a medical pass spooky

Qwertylass

Sorry, I must have missed where you wrote that you are a doctor and an expert in the bodily functions of all boys and girls including their individual urinary tracts and needs, and including, for the girls, the intricacies of their individual periods. You must also then know that “holding it in” can increase risk of UTIs as well as cause cramping and discomfort and have decided that is okay. Of course, you must also know that some of them knowing they won’t be able to go my avoid hydrating properly and you would rather have dehydrated children then ones who may need to go to the toilet. My apologies.

@Feminist

They have 4 opportunities in a 6 hr day, they are not holding it for hours on end.

PSA: recommend not responding to Qwertylass. Have emailed the mods.

Cameras in toilets?!

What an effective way to socialise children into 360-degree 24/7 surveillance. Which is antithetical to creative and intellectual development. A surveilled mind is a caged mind.

The totalitanian tentacles that extend outward from compliance with genderists' demands/needs should raise a lot of questions about just who and what gains from pushing this.

Qwertylass. Please find a new profession.

Qwerty was all over another post about toilets over the weekend, displaying absolutely zero empathy for young girls starting their periods, and seeming to really get off on having power over young kids (if they really are a teacher, as they profess...). Don't feed....

Time and again it is shown that children absolutely HATE mixed sex toilets. WHY, why are they being introduced in schools when kids are going through enormous changes in their bodies? It makes no sense whatsoever

Guys - please refer to PSA above. The mods are on it.

We're not allowed to troll hunt on here but um... I think I can get away with saying that a teacher with a fixation about not letting their pupils go for toilet breaks is an um... fairly familiar figure.