Green Party statement

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Currently the first post on Jonathan Bartleby's Facebook page is a statement from the Green Party leadership about its commitment to equality and in particular trans rights: "We have been very disturbed to see the rise in all of these, transphobia in particular, in recent years and months across the press and social media."

Strangely, there is no mention of the David Challenor case, or the Verita report, or the shameful way Andy Healey was treated when he tried to raise safeguarding concerns about Coventry Green Party. It appears they intend to merrily go on their way pretending it never happened.

A few people have taken them to task in the comments. Worth a read. Comments are open:

www.facebook.com/jonathan.bartley

Another illuminating Tweet made by a Green Party candidate during the Child Sexual Abuse Inquiry - apparently being concerned about child abuse is "a bit Tommy Robinson"

That’s always been how I assumed the elite felt about us plebs being concerned about the welfare of children. Nice of them to confirm I was right.

They really have learnt nothing from the Challenor / paedophile debacle have they? Prioritising the environment but the safety of children - forget it!

The Greens have no credible political philosophy or manifesto. As a pp describes so clearly, they are a rag bag of what they see as woke causes, and therefore wide open to manipulation.

They should retreat to being an environmental lobby group and stick to cross party green/ climate change issues.

They needn’t see this as a climb down, looking at Stonewall they could get more power for their core mission (sic /alleged ) than as a fourth ranking political party in an adversarial parliamentary system.

And they wouldn’t look such twats.

As long as they stuck to Green issues.

They were a million times better as a single issue party. Other parties have shown how sticking to single issues can force the government into making big changes. They are losing credibility, members, and real actual progress in protecting the environment by getting sucked into this bullshit.

Transcript of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, March 14th.

www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/9870/view/public-hearing-transcript-14-march-2019.pdf

So someone at the Greens sent the IICSA enquiry an email that they received about allegations from a woman who claimed to have been raped by a senior Green when she was 15. This email was dated 2014.

Counsel to CSAinquiry produced an e-mail from 2014 sent to the Green party from a teacher who accused one of its election candidates of raping her as a 15-year-old girl and of having a “history of under-age sex with girls” for which he had been arrested although not charged…

Asked what she knew about this e-mail, Liz Reason (spokesperson for the Green Party) told #CSAinquiry: “This came as a complete surprise to us, I have to say… I’m afraid we can’t tell you what happened to it.”

Liz Reason said that the Greens will be suspending the member concerned, “which should happen today”, pending investigation.

Liz Reason told #CSAinquiry that Green party could not find a record of the e-mail on its system.

Although the e-mail dated from 2014, Liz Reason said in her statement that it was first brought to her notice some months ago. She added: “I thought it came via this inquiry, because you had received it rather than us.”

Counsel to #CSAinquiry told Liz Reason: “I think the clue is given by the reference at the bottom, ‘GNP’, that it was an e-mail received from the Green Party itself...”

Liz Reason told #CSAinquiry: “I’ll have to go back and come back to you with another reply… Because I only saw this yesterday for the first time.

The failure to deal with the complaint (above) is jaw-droppingly shocking.

But doesn't surprise me.

A woman member started a topic in the GP members' forum about her treatment after making a complaint about a prominent green man's behaviour. She was exasperated and upset - not only because of what he had done, but mostly because of the response from the GP.

Like many local members, she had offered accommodation to people attending the GP Conference in her town - a practice that is now discouraged, unless you know your guests. The prominent green (would be councillor and head of a local part) was the guest in her home.

Suffice to say that she had to lock herself in her bedroom and was terrified. He actually admitted what she alleged and apologised (in a fashion).

He was rehabilitated in a short space of time and standing for positions.

In reply to her, the GP's disciplinary committee was curt and dismissive. "he apologised, didn't he? What more do you want?'

The attitude sickened me. The just didn't get it.

I am waaaay beyond the "poor old hapless Greens, bless them" narrative.

The Greens are actively colluding in facilitating and then covering up men's harassment of women and men's abuse of children.

The Greens act very quickly in disciplinary matters when it suits them (see Andy Healey) but somehow manage to sit on an allegation against a senior green of the rape of a 15 year old for 4 years until a government enquiry tells them that they should perhaps investigate. And that is after they have denied the existence of the allegation, then said they knew it about it months ago, and then said that they found out about it the day before they faced the IICSA inquiry.

And that's before we even get to the Challenor business.

The Greens are institutionally corrupt.

The Veritas Report concluded that there was insufficient awareness of Safeguarding within the Green Party (FWIW I think this is true for other political parties and many organisations).

Liz Reason's responses illustrate this is still the case.

It isn't simply about having policies or knowing what the policies are. It is about recognising risks, responding appropriately to disclosures of abuse / potential risks, taking responsibility & contributing to the Safeguarding of children and vulnerable adults.

Yes, I can believe that many institutions have less than an integrated and heart and soul relationship with their safeguarding policies, but having rwad the Veritas Report (the full report) I seem to remember that when AC informed the Publicity Manager (a Senior Post) of her father’s status, the publicity manager treated it as an informal message from a friend, offered personal support and took no action.

Most under-prepared institutions panic when their safeguarding policy is tested or needs to be invoked. The Greens seeemed to not even realise the implications to that level, at best, and considered it a mattter to be kept quite as a matter of personal support to AC at worst.

**t isn't simply about having policies or knowing what the policies are. It is about recognising risks, responding appropriately to disclosures of abuse / potential risks, taking responsibility & contributing to the Safeguarding of children and vulnerable adults.

Exactly. The leaders statement totally fails to address the safeguarding issue. Just be nice, don't criticise people. Yeah right. Combined with handwringing about the spectre of transphobia with no mention of sex based rights.

Not going to vote for them with this continued shower of vacuous shite.

Bold fail for Rowantrees para, sorry.

A draft policy was put up on the members website for consultation. It was about managing serious misconduct. The Executive Committee member proposing it sound very self-satisfied and said that it had entailed a lot of work.

It was wordy and convoluted, but in a nutshell, it said that the On Call member of the executive should be informed. The Exec member would inform x and then y.

And that was it.

A member asked what happens after everyone has been told?

The response: that's for us to decide.

So much for transparency and robust guidance for people handling serious allegations.

coventryobserver.co.uk/news/transgender-rights-coventry-politician-aimee-challenor-is-back-after-child-rapist-father-row/

Well AC has diverse interests, that's for sure....

1. madness from the lib dems
2. it doesn't say much for the sincerity of AC's political beliefs does it

The Greens did not promote AC because they think transwomen and women, they promoted AC precisely because they do not.

Jenny Jones has started speaking up for women now at least.

mobile.twitter.com/GreenJennyJones/status/1115190965390774273

Thank you

Jenny Jones has started speaking up for women now at least

At the last Green Party Conference Jenny Jones had a stall with literature. She was looking for volunteers to help with her caseload in the House of Lords. The stall was left unattended while she participated in the Conference. When she returned, the leaflets and posters had been damaged, drawn on and graffiti'd by trans supporters. They were ruined.

She had been singled out for summary justice because of the way that she had handled a debate on issues arising from the Trans policy. She was punished for being even-handed.

You would think that the AC case and the targeting of Jenny Jones would say something to the Leaders of the Green Party. It hasn't made a ha'porth of difference beyond a few tweets.

"Highly thought of in her previous roles"

WTF?
Who writes that rubbish?

I think greens in Scotland may be punished at next Scottish election. They rely heavily on 2nd vote of SNP voters and from ehat I've seen and heard they have lost a large proportion of that (sadly not all due to their twaw stance but more to do with their car parking tax).

When their concern for the levels of violence against women and girls equals their fear of women talking about it I will listen to the Green Party again. When they are concerned about the numbers of men who literally get away with murder, and rape, I will listen to the Greens again. When they listen to women I will listen to the Greens again. They don't even have much to say on their core issues of environmentalism any more. All they are is entitled women-hating.

Patrick Harvie's prominence had a lot to do with the SGP moving away from environmental issues and towards LGBT issues and "social justice". Some MSPs like Mark Ruskell are very concerned about the environment. It's rare to hear Patrick mention it. Not sure why he isn't in the LP. He and Owen Jones could oppress women together.

Patrick Harvey is a misogynistic little man.

twitter.com/patrickharvie/status/1115188387286323200?s=19

Describing Joan MacAlpine as "behaving badly", describing the abuse she and other women receive from the TRAs as 'abuse' (scare quotes his).

I am so so disappointed in him, and the Greens.

I get so fuking annoyed when people (usually men) convert 'pro-women' to 'anti-trans'. Its always anti trans this, anti trans that, when its actually about maintaining womens rights.

The Green Party should not be allowed to hide from their very recent past. For the good of councils and women and children in particular all over the country.
They are a liability. 4.1 onwards sounds like a code of conduct made up by 6 year olds. My own kids have a more robust approach and understanding of safeguarding and personality judgement than they seem to.