Article in the sun - At least three gender-transitioning children have been taken into care because of their parents’ objections

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At least three gender-transitioning children have been taken into care because of their parents’ objections

One Tory MP was 'shocked' as it was 'no reason' to take a child into care if parents and children don't see eye to eye

www.thesun.co.uk/news/8606321/three-gender-transitioning-kids-care/

I saw this on the Jeremy Vine show and gasped at the pathetic mealy mouthed reaction from the chump reviewing the papers. After what happened to Matthew Wright though I’d have just left it if I was him!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/8606321/three-gender-transitioning-kids-care/

The MP is Peter Bone, another right wing Brexiteer.

Good for him, but where are our women/labour/LibDem MPs?

What did the FOI actually say?

Surely that would not be the only reason?

I don't trust The Sun, but I don't trust gender ideologists either.

I imagine there is more to this....(I hope) but it does reflect policy in America.

Yes it was very sparse on details.

I wonder who they are being fostered with.

In fact I wonder what the criteria for being an 'acceptable' person to foster is these days.

What did the FOI actually say?

Surely that would not be the only reason?

I don't trust The Sun, but I don't trust gender ideologists either.

I'd also like to see the FOI wording and verbatim responses.

I doubt that issues around gender identity were the only reasons for removing children. The FOI request wording needs to make it clear that this was the only or main reason for removing.

I’m pretty certain that I’ve read that there is a disproportionately large number of trans questioning children in foster care/with ‘looked after’ status.

Can anyone recall where I’ve got that from?

Only it seems to me that these three families are potentially a chicken/egg situation and what the situation really needs is a very in-depth study as to if/why/how the sorts of experiences/environments that cause children to be taken into care by the state are the same as the ones that cause children to experience dysphoria.

The obvious assumption is that it’s a symptom of/maladjusted coping mechanism for trauma, and not doing the studies/crunching the numbers to confirm or refute this is ultimately doing all these kids a disservice, regardless as to whether they persist into adulthood and transition (happily/unhappily) or not.

Aimee Challenor was a looked after child. (Is that the correct phrase?)

I imagine (reading between the lines) that the children are teens and they were accommodated due to relationship breakdown with their parents. I highly highly doubt that any local authority would apply for or be granted a care order on the basis of parental objection to transition.

Sounds similar/related to the regularly made statement that lots of parents throw out their children when they transition. Not all do, of course. But there seems to be a strong correlation between being trans and inadequate parenting.

Surely that would not be the only reason?

I don't trust the Sun either, but I am directly familiar with a case where transition has been pushed by a SW on a very vulnerable child against the parent's wishes. Parents aren't well equipped to fight the system.

These parents are imperfect but no way would they meet the threshold for a child protection case were it not for the fact that they would not allow their child to change their name and tell everyone they were the opposite sex (without any other presentation changes).

Sadly the last year has convinced me that things probably are as bad as people say- once I'd have presumed this was all made up rubbish.

I've not seen anything like that and I'm a social worker in the wokest of wokesvilles

Not saying it hadn't happened but it's not happening in general

Not saying it hadn't happened but it's not happening in general

I don't think it's happening in general. When I've heard similar stories on here I've been very skeptical- obviously no way of validating some randomer on t'interweb, me included.

This particular has made me really angry because there is nothing I can do. None of the other kids I've known who've transitioned have been so obviously unaware of what they are doing and they've all had parents supporting.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6797093/Councils-taking-children-want-change-gender-care.html

A bit more nuance from the Daily Mail, though again short of facts.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/8606620/gender-transition-child-living-full-time-female/

On the same link - youngest of 4 boys is actually a girl and Mum can now do all that girly 'mum and daughter' stuff. That's where I'd like a social worker to take a look!