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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cw: abortion - new Alabaman legal madness

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Persifleur · 08/03/2019 21:04

What fresh hell?
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/08/the-terrifying-case-of-a-six-week-embryo-suing-an-abortion-clinic
A well argued article.

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Persifleur · 08/03/2019 22:18

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Can't believe no one had a view on this: man insists woman should carry embryo to term - except he can't because his 16 year old (allegedly unwilling) 'partner' chose an abortion. So he sues. And Alabama lets him, through the legal fiction that the 6 week-old embryo can employ an amicus curiae. It's a terrifying precedent. Can't see it happening in UK just yet but less sanguine re the US, so often a precursor for UK developments.

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TurboTeddy · 08/03/2019 23:33

Hard to know where to begin with this one, it's raises so many questions. The judge is clearly testing the waters but what is the end game here. The abortion can't be reversed so what does the person bringing the case hope to gain?

Could an embryo then sue a prospective father for failing to provide funds to ensure the optimum health of the woman during pregnancy? Will abortion clinics need the consent of a man to perform an abortion? How would you prove at that stage who had fathered the child? How would you prove someone had aborted a pregnancy rather than miscarried if their medical records are confidential?

I could go on posing questions all night. You would hope that the unworkability of trying to control a woman's reproductive rights, in this way, would quickly become apparent but we live in batshit crazy times so who knows which way this will go. Either way it's yet another attack in the war on women and I wonder if it will end before Gilead becomes reality.

CaptainMarvelBunting · 08/03/2019 23:42

Tbh, I'm surprised it's not happened before, given that the pro life movement is so much more powerful in the US.

Persifleur · 08/03/2019 23:44

The endgame here seems to be simply (revengeful?) control of women's bodies.
You'd think the insanity of the plea would rule out any further development but, eh, I'm not holding my breath. World's gone mad, of late.

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EcclesThePeacock · 08/03/2019 23:53

Bloody hell. I'm not sure what response there is to that other than stunned silence.
SadAngry

Will a consequence (presumably unintended by this vile entitled young man) be that girls and women in Alabama who don't absolutely want to have a baby will refuse to have sex with men?

Persifleur · 08/03/2019 23:59

Because refusing to have sex with entitled men works out so well? Confused

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PatriciaHolm · 09/03/2019 00:03

You've seen that there is a long thread on this in AIBU?

Persifleur · 09/03/2019 00:08

Ah, no I hadn't - rarely venture there. Thanks for the heads up. (dons protective covering)

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