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"Mother of girl who thinks she’s a boy speaks out, unpacks lies therapists told her"

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QuietContraryMary · 05/03/2019 00:28

Good article here

www.christianpost.com/news/mother-of-girl-who-thinks-shes-a-boy-speaks-out-unpacks-lies-therapists-told-her.html

"Smith's daughter, Michelle , announced that she believed she was really a boy when she was 14 years old, after having seen a presentation about transgenderism at her suburban Philadelphia high school."

"Distressed and flabbergasted, Smith contacted 10 different therapists who, like the online resources she had reviewed, all told her she needed to start calling her daughter by her new, chosen masculine name, Mike, in addition to speaking with her using her preferred male pronouns."

"I outwardly told people that this was my son. I went in public with her identifying her as my son. I purchased my daughter a breast binder. [And] I allowed her to make all of the changes I was coerced into making because I was told she was at high risk of suicide if she didn't do these things,"

"The notion that children are at greater risk or will take their own lives if they're not allowed to alter their bodies to become their "authentic" selves is the most common manipulation technique employed by gender clinicians and pro-trans therapists. "

"Smith felt strongly at the time that it was important she presented herself as 100 percent supportive and "all-in." She wouldn't allow herself to go online and read anything that had even the appearance of criticism of transgender identities and regarded any such commentary as prejudiced."

"We were blindsided at how quickly this all happened. And the therapist pushed this every step of the way. He was planning for the next step, and the next step, and the next step," she said.

They went along with it until they were essentially threatened by the therapist. He informed them that unless they agreed to put Michelle on puberty blockers she would end up in a mental hospital.

"That was my wake-up moment," Smith said, which sent her to the internet again, only this time she found thoughtful voices willing to scrutinize transgender medicalization and the underlying ideology such as 4thwavenow.

This cuts through it very well.

A mother who encourages her child to transition goes on 'Pride parade', there are all kinds of 'treatments', and 'transformations'. The language is very positive. This is all very 'now' and appealing for a teenager.

The consequences 20 years ahead are something that only an insane person could imagine a child could comprehend.

The alternative to parades and transitions and 'support' and 'stunning and brave' is to be shunned and to be painted as a bigoted pariah, literally evil.

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FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 05/03/2019 00:39

Oh, that's hard reading. Sad

Lefthanddown · 05/03/2019 06:38

That's harrowing.

I had watched this detransitioner video

just before reading the article and feel sorrow for all the women and their families caught up in the trans narrative.

It is hard to comprehend how all agencies concerned with children have become tied up in the ideology, with not one enabling the individual child to explore and question their feelings.

pancaketosser · 05/03/2019 09:12

Wow that video. I think I like Maritza. And no-one can claim she doesn't get it, she really went all in.

WRT how did this happen - I can sort of get why a country with a healthcare system like the USA would tend towards treatment over therapy. But having said that, I can see why the NHS could do the same, albeit for different reasons. Therapy is less quantifiable than medication.

MarciaDidia · 05/03/2019 09:27

I genuinely think that health funding is part of this. I have counselling privately for depression etc. When I was trying to get it funded on health insurance, it was like getting blood out of a stone. They would fund a initial 6 weeks and then 2 weeks at a time. Counselling/therapy is a like a blank cheque because it can go on forever. I suspect (and hearing stories on here and on Twitter) that funding for MH services on the NHS is dreadfully low for that reason. Whereas surgery, though more expensive initially, should be a discrete procedure. I don't know how that fits with the cost of ongoing hormone treatment and the amount of aftercare that SRS requires, mind you.

pancaketosser · 05/03/2019 09:50

Unfortunately, as the Prime Minister has proudly stated that "being trans is not a mental health issue", I'm not optimistic.

AncientLights · 05/03/2019 11:59

Isn't 14 a bit late to start puberty blockers? I suppose changes would be halted in their tracks, but lots of pubertal changes would be well on their way for most girls by that age.

FlyingOink · 05/03/2019 12:12

That was hard to read. I bet the screenshot scavengers will use that article's provenance as proof we're all funded by fundies (still waiting for my cheque!) though.

I think without cutting off all internet access it's hard to remove a child from transactivist influence. And that in itself is hard to do.

I'm pretty sure that if I had a daughter with ROGD I'd move abroad with her until she desisted.

Bowlofbabelfish · 05/03/2019 12:30

When I expressed concerns he told me I was a highly anxious mother," Smith said

Chilling. Let’s unpack this - the mother child bond is threatened by her instinct being undermined. But not by evidence based medical fact, by opinion and agenda presented as fact. Then the fake suicide stats used to exert pressure. Then the labelling of the mother as hysterical/paranoid.

Look at this in the context of what mermaids et al push - parental alienation, and sidestepping parental abilities to keep children safe.

Now add in named person legislation.
Now add in the proposed banning of anything other than affirmation (in the conversion therapy ban - doubly insane because this IS conversion therapy.)

I’ve said this before but this is leading to a situation where women (and fathers) will be legally unable to protect their children. Parents will be unable to challenge, and if they do they will be labelled as paranoid and perhaps have parental rights removed.

This should be ringing great big alarm bells.

Bowlofbabelfish · 05/03/2019 12:32

In February 2018, Judge Sylvia Hendon in Hamilton County, Ohio, ruled that a 17-year-old should be removed from the custody of her parents due to their objections to the controversial hormone treatments for trans-identifying teens.

Fuck.

FlyingOink · 05/03/2019 12:52

Seeing as TRAs like to make a false equivalence between what they are trying to do and the fight for gay rights, let's imagine a similar scenario.
Young girl desperate to be a lesbian so is cheered on by school and therapists?
Unlikely.
17 year old taken in to care because parents wouldn't accept her sexuality?
Unlikely.
Children who identify as gay being coached by adults on what to say to be believed?
Nope.
Children who identify as gay being feted and celebrated?
Haha.
Children who identify as gay being allowed to make choices that may impact their health to affirm their homosexuality?
Thankfully nope.

No gay child who grew up with homophobic or otherwise controlling parents had organisations "supporting" them in this way. Or legal decisions made to enfranchise children.
What's so special about the "trans kids"?

Popchyk · 05/03/2019 12:59

"We were blindsided at how quickly this all happened. And the therapist pushed this every step of the way. He was planning for the next step, and the next step, and the next step," she said".

All of these charlatans make their money by keeping the kids coming back.

A child who desists is an income stream that has dried up.

FlyingOink · 05/03/2019 13:03

A child who desists is an income stream that has dried up.
That's it in a nutshell isn't it. "Possibly gay" kids or GNC kids don't make anyone any money.

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