NHS to review its transgender policies

[magicmole]

Didn't see if this had already been posted.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/04/nhs-review-transgender-policies/

The Health Minister, Matt Hancock: "This is a very, very difficult question and the current rules of the NHS are that people are treated as they present," he said. "So if somebody is a woman and has gone through the legal changes to be a woman then they are treated as a woman".

Isn't he conflating several different groups of people there? Anyone who rocks up and self-IDs is not the same as someone who has 'gone through the legal changes'. Plus, does he mean by that people with a GRC (fewer than 5000 people)? I'm not sure what the current guidance is but know someone on here will know.

from Lansley's Wiki:
Suggested conflicts of interest:
"While in opposition as health spokesman, Andrew Lansley accepted a donation of £21,000 from John Nash, the chairman of private healthcare provider Care UK and founder of the private equity fund Sovereign Capital, which owns several other private healthcare companies, to help fund his private office, leading to allegations of a conflict of interest.[29] Such companies stand to be the largest beneficiaries of Lansley's bill passed by the Coalition and House of Lords to increase the use of private health providers within the NHS.

As reported February 2011, Lansley's wife advised attendees at a business conference to "establish positive relationships with decision-makers". Although staff members of Low Associates, the PR firm she runs, had food and drug companies among their clients before joining Low Associates, the firm denies it has any clients in the health sector

Andrew Lansley's wife, Sally Low, is the managing director of Low Associates. Sally Low denies that Low Associates is involved in lobbying and instead describes its activities as provision of "strategic advice" to clients. Low Associates helps people prepare before they give evidence to committees of MPs, and Sally Low has given speeches on improving lobbying skills, in which she said that lobbyists should "establish positive relationships with decision-makers before you need their help". Lobbyist clients of Low Associates personnel have previously worked for a variety of companies including those with an interest in health, such as SmithKline Beecham, Unilever and Procter & Gamble."

Andrew Lansley is also now an associate of Low:
www.loweurope.eu/NewsletterArticleDetail?articleID=61abd77d-02f4-44a6-a8df-4eb7faa55f80

Lansley even worse than I thought

For the record, the Equality Act 2010 is very explicit on this issue: hospitals are totally exempt.

See Schedule 3
Services and public functions: exceptions

Section 27: Single-sex services

Sub-section (5) The condition is that the service is provided at a place which is, or is part of—

(a) a hospital, or

(b) another establishment for persons requiring special care, supervision or attention.

[Sub-section 5b looks like it can be applied to prisons, care homes etc]

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/schedule/3

I've been concerned about this issue as I'm a nurse on a female surgical-gynae ward.

We have only ever had a trans person once and they went into a side room. This cannot happen all the time as those rooms are so needed for infection control purposes and those passing away.

Lots of my patients have been sexually abused, suffered domestic violence, are actively miscarrying. They would NOT want the presence of someone who does not pass as a woman.

They would NOT want the presence of someone who does not pass as a woman.'

They wouldn't want the prescence of a male patient.
Its a female surgical gynae ward.
The NHS tells staff and the public that these are single sex wards, with single sex patient accomodation eg showers and toilets.

There will be young females needing gyny treatment who identify/have identified as transmen and taken cross sex hormones. They are female

The LBC interview from where the Telegraph article stems from is on Matt Hancock's twitter feed yesterday and is 22 minutes in. Nick Ferrari does not let him get away with avoiding how absurd a 'male appendage' is in a female ward. It's worth watching.

mobile.twitter.com/MattHancock?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

And the view from the other side (reddit Transgender U.K.) is basically, ‘go fuck yourself, women’

www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/axbtxf/transgender_nhs_rules_that_allow_men_to_share/

Single sex facilities are based on body type, not internal senses of self.