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Charlize Theron: I have two young girls

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QuietContraryMary · 02/03/2019 01:41

"I have two young girls.
Two young beautiful black African-American girls. Not from South Africa, I wish - they wouldn't give me a baby.

I cannot wait for my girls to be big enough to share this [Black Panther] with them"

Video: twitter.com/Variety/status/1069617409466736641

after 2:00

Charlize Theron adopted a baby boy in 2012.

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QuietContraryMary · 02/03/2019 01:58

The child was born January 2012, so 6 at the time of these comments.

There was this interview at aged 2 about liking Disney Princesses.

And various other indications along the way. I don't know when she first publicly claimed the child was now a daughter rather than a son.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 02/03/2019 02:35

I am surprised by Charlize Theron. I cannot fathom why she would think she has a daughter, she must know that her child is still a boy - just doing things that are different to most boys. Which is fine.

SoloClarinet · 02/03/2019 07:03

She needs to look into the high prevalence of adopted children presenting with gender difficulties and ask an objective medical professional with good experience whether attachment difficulties are the root of the problem and see about resolving those first

CatandtheFiddle · 02/03/2019 08:01

Arghhhhh, the prison of gender roles and sex stereotypes. Why can’t boys like Disney princesses. I always preferred Goofy myself.

Have I been a boy all my life without realising it?!

Horsewithnom · 02/03/2019 08:13

Two young beautiful black African-American girls. Not from South Africa, I wish - they wouldn't give me a baby.

South Africa - making the right call there..

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 02/03/2019 09:04

Oh what fresh hell is this.

MillytantForceit · 02/03/2019 09:54

They wouldn't 'give you a baby' because like every other country on Earth except the USA, they are signed up to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Adoption is a service for children without parents, not the other way round.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 02/03/2019 09:56

This is troubling. The kid is very young and she is telling him that it’s possible to change sex. It may well be a reaction to trauma (and hooking up with a known domestic abuser when the kid is very young probably isn’t great either). I think people who cannot offer a stable home to kids due to their lifestyle shouldn’t adopt. I am sure Charlize cares deeply for her children but adopted kids need so much extra support that a jet-setting lifestyle may not accommodate. And telling the world that the kid is now a girl is bound to be confusing. Obviously the boy can wear whatever clothes- that’s not an issue.

I also dislike where she said she needed therapy to deal with apartheid. I am sure the black people who lived under the regime needed it even more than you to be honest. It’s good to have a social conscience but it’s really taking the me me me to another level.

AtrociousCircumstance · 02/03/2019 09:59

Well, I used to admire her. Now I despair.

A boy who likes Disney princesses can’t be a boy who likes Disney princesses - he has to be warped to believe he’s a girl Angry

Child abuse.

RockyFlintstone · 02/03/2019 10:09

Two girls? She is referring to her 6 year old boy as a daughter? How weird.

Also the South Africa comment WTF?!

RockyFlintstone · 02/03/2019 10:10

I would have thought CT was better than this. I don't really know why, but I do!

MsMcWoodle · 02/03/2019 10:12

I saw this and thought it was made up. I can't believe someone who could produce such intelligent acting in Monster could fall for this crap.

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QuietContraryMary · 02/03/2019 10:21

I did also think it was made up, I saw the pictures of the boy in the dresses and thought 'people are just reading too much into liberal Hollywood parents'. But no, it's there in her own words.

Fwiw I don't think (from reading online a bit) many black people are impressed with an Afrikaner woman adopting a black boy and then saying 'she's a girl'

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RockyFlintstone · 02/03/2019 10:30

Interesting to compare this to Shiloh Jolie-Pitt, who despite being totally gender non-conforming and absolutely ripe for being publicly transed, has managed to reach the ripe old age of 12 and is still being referred to as 'she/girl/daughter'.

EweSurname · 02/03/2019 10:33

I wonder what the response would be if she said she had two beautiful white children now, if they self-identified as white because they had a white mother.

Somehow I don’t think it would be lauded or even accepted as this has. But what is the actual difference?

RockyFlintstone · 02/03/2019 10:37

I wonder what the response would be if she said she had two beautiful white children now, if they self-identified as white because they had a white mother.

Yes! People would go batshit!

terfsandwich · 02/03/2019 10:38

Would it be possible that these children are future gay/lesbian adults?
If so, here we have major celebrities openly transing effeminate boys or masculine girls. It will reduce the number of homosexual people in upper echelon circles.
It's unconscionable (if true).

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/03/2019 10:58

'Not from South Africa, I wish - they wouldn't give me a baby'

Are those her actual words? Shock
Tbh I am even more shocked by that than the transing.
The entitlement and sense of babies as things not people...

AssassinatedBeauty · 02/03/2019 12:18

Did she actually say "they wouldn't give me a baby"? Wow. I had a lot of time for her given her family background and how she came across. But this... no.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 02/03/2019 14:39

I spy another Mommie Dearest in the making.

PeakTransedAgain · 02/03/2019 21:33

I thought she seemed intelligent in previous interviews.

However the wording here Shock

SunsetBeetch · 02/03/2019 21:47

Oh. Oh no.

Toorahtoorahaye · 02/03/2019 23:24

She’s probably just trying to do what she thinks and what a lot of folk are telling her is the right thing for her child. I don’t like ripping apart parents who are probably going though a stressful, worrying experience.

Bowlofbabelfish · 03/03/2019 06:25

No they wouldn’t give you a baby. It’s not a bunch of flowers, it’s a human being 🤦🏻‍♀️
The entitlement...