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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GPs seem to have swallowed the trans dictionary - does that mean Doctors no longer believe in biological reality?

33 replies

stumbledin · 02/03/2019 00:39

I came across this by chance while searching on a different topic.

Would you trust a doctor who refered to cisgender?

www.rcgp.org.uk/about-us/news/2019/february/gender-reassignment-is-a-specialist-area-of-medicine.aspx

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2rebecca · 03/03/2019 23:03

Most GPs are not members of the RCGP. In our practice of 5 GPs only one is. Like the BMA it is often out of touch with ordinary non academic doctors. Only 2 of us are BMA members.

OldCrone · 04/03/2019 00:24

If I inadvertently disclose a trans person's birth sex, even for sound medical reasons, I commit a criminal offence.

Does that include disclosure to other medical professionals? Because surely anyone treating the patient needs to know in order to ensure they get appropriate and effective treatment.

XXcstatic · 04/03/2019 09:09

Does that include disclosure to other medical professionals? Because surely anyone treating the patient needs to know in order to ensure they get appropriate and effective treatment

Yes. Crazy.

XXcstatic · 04/03/2019 09:17

If you want people to be enlightened then perhaps don't tell them to fuck off

I'm not going to apologise for objecting strongly to the vile suggestion of trying to end a GP's career for using a single word that some of us (including me) dislike, particularly as most GPs - like most members of the public - have no idea that many women find 'cis' objectionable.

Where have I heard that idea before? Where have I heard that professionals should be shamed, dragged through misconduct hearings and lose their jobs for not using the 'correct' terminology? Oh yes, that's right - it was from Fae, McKinnon, Lees, Challenor et al.

As I said above, these are TRA tactics and, if we start adopting them as GC women, we are no better than the TRAs.

Lamaha · 04/03/2019 09:49

Posie Parker posted on her FB this letter, and says we can share and copy it; I think she means people can send the same letter.

I was pleased to see that the RCGP are engaging with the difficult area of care for those questioning their gender. I agree it is important that GPs should not be initiating hormonal treatment and that you are stating this clearly.
I also agree that language is important. But for everyone. Please could you refrain from using the term ‘cis’ for those who don’t identify as ‘trans’. I am a woman and there is no need for the addition of ‘cis’; those males who identify as women or have had transsexual surgery or receive female hormones are still male, they are not women. Please change the wording on your website.
While I appreciate that GPs will choose to refer those who are sure they want hormones or surgery, it is also vital that GPs are equipped to support the increasing numbers of mainly girls who may present as gender questioning, whether or not they are asking for a referral. I want to know that GPs take biology seriously and would be willing to be clear that biological sex will never change and that there is no evidence for the long term benefits of hormones and surgery. Such honesty is more important in clinical care than ‘affirming’ what someone thinks they are, just to avoid offending them. Please could you provide confirmation that you want GPs to be open about their beliefs and knowledge - not to have to pretend they believe biological sex has been or can be changed.

terfinginthevoid · 04/03/2019 09:59

I'm a (very recently qualified) GP.
I think I have a duty as a doctor to speak out against trans nonsense. The TWAW bollocks is damaging to women, and incredibly damaging to the young people who believe it, and end up irreversibly damaging their bodies. If doctors don't challenge it the public are increasingly going to believe that it is a fact that there exists a medical condition of 'being born in the wrong body'.
I am openly gender critical on twitter in my own name, and my profile states I am a medical doctor.
There is a desperate shortage of GPs, particularly in the area I live.
If the GMC suspend a GP for stating biological facts (and biological facts are 'anti-trans' ) they would make themselves look absolutely ridiculous.

terfinginthevoid · 04/03/2019 10:05

The New Statesman article above is absolutely ridiculous.
I would seriously doubt the competence of a doctor who thought it could possibly be appropriate to use female reference values for a male patient who had had no hormone treatment because of their genderfeelz.

AncientLights · 04/03/2019 10:43

I'm more bothered by the GP in The New Statesman using the verb 'assigned (at birth)' when they must have done an obstetric placement at some stage and seen how easily sex is observed in almost all neonates.

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