Trans kids will kill GC arguments?

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Terrifying argument from the 'delightful' Alex Sharp - encouraging the use of hormones and surgery on children to get one over on the old crusty feminists.

Paris skirting around the issue of giving children life changing drugs before they go through puberty nicely there.

She’s had 9 likes in 1.5hrs. She’s a nobody.

yeah, I just read that too.
It certainly adds another sinister layer to the way that older mtf trans women are so very keen to affirm and allow medication for trans kids, doesn't it?

my children are closet GC, as are most of their friends. Like the rest of us, they have to deny biological reality in public, to avoid the Bigot! Transphobia! crap

The thing I find so baffling is how trans adults are literally fighting to be 'valid' without any medical interventions but ALL trans children MUST be given puberty blockers and hormones immediately as it's life and death.

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It is what the extreme autogynephiles do .. they use children as their human shield behind which they can hide the extremity of their sexual fetish.

Their argument is that if it is happening to children it means there is nothing sexual about the behaviour of adult heterosexual males. Unfortunately for them, it is mostly young females who are attending so-called "gender clinics", which bears no relation in any way to the behaviour of adult heterosexual males.

Suspect few puberty blocked children will ever make the grade as Olympians. Quite apart from potential drug side effects, making it to the top level in sport generally requires a level of commitment that wouldn’t be compatible with the transitioning regimen.

Suspect few puberty blocked children will ever make the grade as Olympians. Quite apart from potential drug side effects, making it to the top level in sport generally requires a level of commitment that wouldn’t be compatible with the transitioning regimen.

Yes, good point.

I don't think it's about sport, it's about passing - it's a Trojan horse to get the lot in inc the Alex D beardy types

If a significant number of TW really did pass then gatekeeping would be far harder and easier to challenge legally - presumably something around the unfairness/ discrimination of letting those with the 'passing privilege' in etc

I'd imagine some of those who have spent decades working away behind the scenes getting this into policies and training etc are not happy about these current high profile idiots putting themselves above the greater good and peak transing people left right and centre

The thing I find so baffling is how trans adults are literally fighting to be 'valid' without any medical interventions but ALL trans children MUST be given puberty blockers and hormones immediately as it's life and death.

YES! Bizarre isn’t it

It's only the case if you let children use puberty blockers/hormones prior to puberty - so age 11 or 12? My daughter is showing signs of starting puberty at 11. My boy's voices had broken at about age 12. My boys were taller/stronger than me at 13.

But most sane people agree the medicalised puberty blocker/sex hormones/surgery pathway would be insane for children this young. Because children are not capable of making such a life-changing permanent decision. FFS they are not allowed to get tattooes, or vote, or drive - for good reason.

I am one of many people I know who would have likely lapped up the chance to block puberty and be properly seen as boys if it had been a Thing when we were younger. All very happy as women now. All of us are autistic too, a huge factor in girls wanting to transition. Terrifying to think what may have happened if we were children now.

AS is not a nobody.

Alex Sharpe is a Professor of Law at Keele University and a human rights barrister at Garden Court Chambers, London. She has been researching and writing about trans/law issues for over 20 years and is the author ofTransgender Jurisprudence: Dysphoric Bodies of Law(Cavendish, 2002),Foucault’s Monsters and the Challenge of Law(Routledge, 2010), andSexual Intimacy and Gender Identity ‘Fraud’: Reframing the Legal & Ethical Debate(Routledge, 2018). Alex sits on the International Legal Committee of the World Professional Association of Transgender Health, a law reform body that makes third party interventions in trans litigation worldwide, and she has been cited judicially by the European Court of Human Rights as well as by courts in various domestic jurisdictions.

futureoflegalgender.kcl.ac.uk/advisory-board/#

The thing I find so baffling is how trans adults are literally fighting to be 'valid' without any medical interventions but ALL trans children MUST be given puberty blockers and hormones immediately as it's life and death.

Aren't the 'trans kids' just a way of deflecting attention away from the fact that most transwomen have penises? By creating a group of people whose sexual and reproductive function has been taken from them as children, they are trying to prevent people seeing this as the men's rights movement it actually is.

See the video linked to in this tweet.

twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1013774040509673478

Also see this article:
www.objectnow.org/news/2019/1/15/trans-kids-paedophilia-in-drag?

There’s No Such Thing as a ‘Transgender’ Child

The fabrication of the 'transgender' child (or the child ‘Drag Queen’) is similar to the creation of the child 'sex worker'. These misleading labels are placed on ordinary children in order to disguise and excuse the exploitation of these children in the fulfillment of an adult agenda – in both cases, to cater to the sexual interests of adult men.

Men's Sexual Rights Dressed Up as 'Children's Rights'

The 'trans rights' movement reframes the removal of children's safeguarding as granting children 'freedom of expression'. This is similar to paedophiles advocating for the 'sexual rights of children'. In both cases, the proponents of these movements are actually interested in promoting men's 'sexual rights'.

Paris Lees and Alex Sharpe are just confirming that this is what's happening. They need those trans children to validate them.

That's a good point, focusing on children removes the sex/fetish element from the definition or perception of what transgender is.

I have known a few children who have gone on to be successful in sport - they are not they types to hate their bodies or spend a lot of time worrying about their inner selves. They also don't have parents who would encourage this kind of introspection over actually doing things. I don't think there will be many issues around early transitioners and high level sport.

I actually think the focus should be on lower level sport, not just the Olympics - there are the same safety issues, the same "foregone conclusion," problems and then changing rooms etc. This is where young girls are turned off sport. We need to keep drumming home the message that a male with a gender identity is only discriminated against if treated differently to other males, not if they are treated differently to females.

creating a group of people whose sexual and reproductive function has been taken from them as children,

It is so endlessly creepy. Children of adult age. Forever pre pubertal.

As others have said, the gender identity ideology needs recruits. It's such an unstable edifice that without a continual flow of additional true believers coming in it's likely to collapse.

The best recruits have two characteristics: extreme gullibility and human shield-iness. This leads unsurprisingly to troubled young people as a good recruiting ground.

Once you've got them you need to lock them in. How to do this? Make them undergo extreme treatments that effectively puts them apart from society at large and means their only safe space is in the special group.

There are other motives but if I write more my post will be deleted.

Which is one reason why they are so desperate to prevent anyone from transitioning young.

Yeah, nothing at all to do with being concerned about the safety of using untested drugs in this way, allowing 10 year olds to fuck their bodies for life, and such. We disagree with kids being on such dangerous drugs because of stereotypes...simply because 'transkids' would 'demolish' the arguments about male people having an advantage over female ones in sport. Yeah. Keep telling yourself that.

Vix, indeed - the ignorance is staggering, I am a mother, I will love my child whatever their path but I will never consent for them to mutilate their healthy body and be an experiment for drugs. That makes me a good mother not a bigot.

As others have said, the gender identity ideology needs recruits. It's such an unstable edifice that without a continual flow of additional true believers coming in it's likely to collapse.

This. The idea that one can change sex needs to be normalised in order for the ideology to continue. And the best way to 'normalise' it, is to get kids starting to transition before they go through the puberty of their sex. And obviously the more kids that do this, the more 'normal' it becomes. It's sick.

How anyone can compare this to gay rights is just absolutely beyond me.

Which is one reason why they are so desperate to prevent anyone from transitioning young.

Yes, the only reason that people don't want kids taking irreversible drugs and mutilating their bodies absolutely years before they would ever be capable of making those sorts of decisions about their bodies, is so that we can win arguments on Twitter.

Honestly, tweets like that one really do show where these people are coming from.