"Student who lost track championship to transgender athletes speaks out"

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There's an interview by Laura Ingraham here with Selina Soule who lost to two biologically male athletes in the Connecticut State Championship.

video.foxnews.com/v/6007625250001/

Laura went to the same school as Selina and cuts her off when she starts saying 'it's great that they are being true to themselves', and basically says 'this is just cheating'. She doesn't have a lot of time for Selina's attempt to be nice.

This is a different athlete in a different arena but the same thing.

www.outsports.com/2019/2/26/18241404/donald-trump-junior-trans-athletes-success-injustice

(note I previously linked to this same latter story, however MN did not like the source and has deleted the thread, so I have provided this ultra-woke LGBT source.

Their argument amounts to 'the transgender athlete only won SOME of the events, not everything, there was still room for other women to win in those events' )

Breaking barriers = breaking the rules.

XY and XX categories will just be the first step to a whole lot of whining and pseudo science about what XX and XY is.

It's like ruddy Damien Whatzit from the NHS wanting to re brand cervical smears as for 'cervix havers' saying that 'people with cervixes include a group called women'. Sigh. No, Damien, that won't save you and it isn't the truth. Only women have cervixes. Some women do not want to call themselves women and have chosen other labels to call themselves. So have a computer system that's capable of recognising women and women who prefer to go by different names. They are all women, whether they want to be or not, and trying to pander about with 'cervix havers' discriminates against and confuses and disenfranchises the 99.99% of women who are fine with being called women and need those services.

Lying does not help anybody. Fudging unavoidable truths does not help anybody.

Shocking that the girl is the one who speaks out about the unfairness, where are the adults, the coaches, the parents, the head Teachers? Why leave all this on the young girl athlete who will no doubt get a backlash for speaking the truth.

Great article, saying it like it is.
www.louderwithcrowder.com/opinion-transwomen-men-who-compete-against-women-are-sexist-asshles/
Let me cover my bases here, as I don’t want to be accused of being exclusionary. Not only are transwomen (men who think they’re women but who are, and always will be, men) who compete against women sexist assholes, but the people who support transwomen (men) competing against women are also sexist assholes. I will not walk this statement back, not one tiny girl step. Furthermore, transwomen (men) who compete against women are not only not women but the very worst kind of men. Putting transwomen who compete against women on the bottom-most rung of the societal food chain. I am not sorry to state it, but I am sorry other women have to suffer the consequences of such awful men stealing opportunities from women.

We haven't even been allowed women's sport for 100 years in most events / disciplines

Boys and men who take away opportunities from women and girls should be embarassed and ashamed

Well bloody said Mr Crowder.

Oh it's someone else's article. Well bloody said Courtney. And well done for publishing it Crowder.

Forget trying to embarrass the male entrants and shouting “cheats!” If they cared, they wouldn’t be in the girls’ Races.

The problem lies with the goons who run the events and colleges that give girls’ scholarships to boys.

Evening, OP. We just wanted to clarify that the reason the previous thread was deleted not that the source you linked to broke guidelines - it just looked as though your link had a virus so we didn't want lots of people clicking on it. It was the post itself that broke our talk guidelines. The two things combined meant we felt it was best removed.

This all looks fine though. Thanks for reposting.

"it just looked as though your link had a virus"

That seems a bit unlikely, but I suppose it's possible they are using a dodgy ad agency? Out of interest where did that virus report come from?

"It was the post itself that broke our talk guidelines. "

Hmm, well I think to be clear my post was just quoting from the source, there were few if any words of my own. The quoted words were a little uncompromising though. I'm not quite clear if there is a difference between linking to 'misgendering' without repeating the offending pronouns, and quoting it, in terms of your rules?

Go Selina Soule

Here is the same piece on vimeo vimeo.com/320151408

Hey OP. We clicked on the link here and it didn't look good. We didn't look too far into it but didn't want to risk a mass outbreak of anything. We hadn't realised that your post was entirely quoting another source actually, but to be honest, we'd have to have deleted it regardless as it did break TGs. We don't want to quote it again here as this thread is going so well at the moment but if you'd like to discuss it further feel free to drop us a line at the usual address or hit report on your OP and we can let you know exactly which parts were a problem for future reference.

Shocking that the girl is the one who speaks out about the unfairness, where are the adults, the coaches, the parents, the head Teachers? Why leave all this on the young girl athlete who will no doubt get a backlash for speaking the truth.

Yy, happydappy, it is so wrong, isn’t it.

But she really is so brave for speaking up, and great to see the presenter really saying it how it is.

Outstandingly clear interview from both of them, and the words from the trans athletes made no sense at all, it was word salad!

Did you spot where the statistics were from? Great to see FPFW taking sense to the US.

Did any one notice the male to female difference table they showed credited Fair play for women?

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If this were 23 year old men competing in the 13 year old boys category, the coaches and parents would be shouting from the rooftops at the injustice.

...this issue boils my piss, it's absurd, trans women are not women and to compete against each other in sport is so unfair it's ludicrous. End of

all I can say is, if I were a girl's or women's coach in the US, and I wanted to win a state championship, I'd sure be paying calls on parents who need scholarship money for sons who are mediocre athletes.

I don't see, however, how the Connecticut track tream is not in violation of Title IX. Under that law, the exact same dollar amount has to be spent on female athletes as on male athletes, and the law reads "sex" not "gender identity." Any monies spent on Miller's and Yearwood's coaching and participation creates an illegal imbalance between male and female spending if those dollar amounts are counted as being spent on girls' sports.

Federal law preempts state law. I hope parents are seeking legal consultation for filing a Title IX lawsuit against the school.

and the words from the trans athletes made no sense at all

I think that was due to the interviewer's strange question, 'What would you say if the tables were turned?' In other words what do the trans athletes expect the female athletes to be saying to them.

'I'm not going to discourage you or say 'oh it's not fair' And it would just push me to run faster.'

'I'd be happy for them cos they get to do what they want. They're happy so that in turn should make me happy.'

So there you go Selina, it should encourage you to run faster and seeing the trans women happy should make you happy.

An NCAA sprinter is breaking women's records—after competing as a man last season

www.theblaze.com/news/an-ncaa-sprinter-is-breaking-womens-records-after-competing-as-a-man-last-season

I'm not sure how many people are familiar with US media on this thread but it's maybe worth pointing out that Ingraham is generally a Grade A bigot.

It's unspeakably sad that the only people in the US willing to stand up to wokey blokey bullies are rightwingers.

Their agenda is, of course, to keep women firmly in the barefoot-pregnant-and-behind-the-plow box, so any variation on patriarchy's stereotypes is a crisis.

There's a bit of a controversy going on right now as to whether it works to use that to at least get feminist viewpoints aired.

Given that they would destroy feminism if they could, I'm really not sure it's a good idea to use them. But given that the alternative seems to be total silencing, I'm not sure it isn't.

It's unspeakably sad that the only people in the US willing to stand up to wokey blokey bullies are rightwingers.

I agree (I am in the US). And they are coming at the issue from an entirely different point of view than women who are concerned about the erosion of identity and rights. It is really concerning.

I haven't seen any coverage of the CT or recent NCAA trans wins. none at all - and I read the Boston Globe, the NYT and listen to NPR every day. The NCAA meet happened in my hometown - absolutely no coverage. At the same time, the in-your-face terf-accusing trans lobby also seems comparitively silent here.

Given this happened in the US, I am astonished that a group of college-denied girls are not suing the fuck out of the athletics groups for permitting this.

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"I haven't seen any coverage of the CT or recent NCAA trans wins. none at all - and I read the Boston Globe, the NYT and listen to NPR every day. The NCAA meet happened in my hometown - absolutely no coverage."

This was in the Washington Times in 2017

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/7/andraya-yearwood-transgender-athlete-stars-on-fema/

ABC News 2018

abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/transgender-track-stars-speak-critics-allege-unfair-advantage-56084731

UK Daily Mail 2018

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5836021/Students-parents-demand-rule-change-trans-teen-wins-girls-state-championship.html

I assume that the "woke" "right on" media will not publish anything about this, because they know what the public response will be.