A world designed for men

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Great article by Caroline Criado Perez:
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/23/truth-world-built-for-men-car-crashes

Amazed to see that in the Guardian. Haven’t they realised what this does to their “female penis” stance?

Thanks for the article Jelly

Thanks for the link. The comments ouldn't load for me, so has anybody pointed out yet that self-ID will make a mockery of the type of sex-related statistics cited in the article?

Excellent article - I see at the bottom it’s an ‘edited extract’ from her new book, I think I’ll add that to my reading list :-)

I was just talking about this last night to my DP, I borrowed his phone to google something and I wasn’t able to hold the phone and type one-handed like I can with my own, my thumb literally couldn’t reach. I have an iPhone SE (4in screen) and it’s paid off now, usually I’d upgrade but every single newer model is too large for me. So Apple are losing out. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’ll be looking for a new car in a few years, and I’ll be looking in more detail at the female safety tests when making that purchasing decision too.

a propos "female penis": I've been reading through th comments and nothing releveant to that yet; it's all about workspace and militart.

The nearest the comments have come to GC is this comment below. There are four pages more of comments to go: I'll scroll through them and see if I find anything else.

The toilet thing has been playing on my mind recently with the introduction of gender neutral toilets at my work, which i support in general. The issue was that they replaced one womens toilet room, leaving two mens rooms and one womens. Clearly not a useful decision and again motivated by this logic that women will use these more perhaps, which is not necessarily the case. This made me consider urinals which are great for sustainability and quick to use and clean. However, many men experience 'stage fright'. Should we really be expected to pee brushing shoulders with another man? Is this anxiety normalised and just accepted in society? This would be a very outlandish thing to suggest women do (though would obviously be more complicated also with clothing removal etc). Would be interested in hearing what other men think.

Caitlin Moran retweeted this. It’s interesting to look at it alongside the transwomen in sport discussion as it sets out the countless, immutable, undeniable ways in which male and female bodies are different. It made me interested to know what Caitlin Moran’s stance is on transgender issues. Such a thought provoking (and depressing) article!

Oh dear, just started another thread on this without realising there already was one. Will ask MN to delete.

I thought that was an interesting article

Its very interesting as a man. You can take many things from this plenty can be considered misogynistic but it could be suggested that biology prevents men and women working together. Another anomaly i saw is that most medical tests involve male aged under 25. However this is not misogynistic but a simple result that most volunteers for clinical tests are male and under 25.

And also Single often medical testers want subjects not to be taking regular meds, and the chances of that lessen as we age. Plus, of course, they were terrified of women being pregnant after the thalidomide scandal, and that was when testing for pregnancy was much slower than now. So they tended not to use women. I think most volunteer subjects are white (UK) and we know there are differences with some ethnic groups & certain meds. So the young white males only represent a small part of our population. And they are what so much is based on.

Also, I remember reading years back that married women didn't have their own occupation recorded on death certificates, but their husband's instead. This masked lots of industrial diseases. I don't know when that changed.

A great article, read it earlier. It struck a cord because dd is in the military and the helmets were one size fits all /(there's adjustable padding inside but that wasn't enough) she's been assured once she gets commissioned they do issue made to measure if needed (her uniform currently is strategically pinned!) but she's fed up - she's within the normal height range so why no kit? No women's fit backpacks at all so she used her own

Unfortunately comments are pre moderated so I imagine any attempt to point out that the Guardian does, after all, acknowledge the sex based differences between men and women would not make the cut.

Amazingly powerful article. I had come across some of the toilet info before when at uni but the other stuff is shocking incredibly depressing. That people are not properly protected in high risk environment is horrendous and the lack of data for jobs such nail stylists, cleaners etc beggars belief.

I am actually involved in some research trials for Huntington’s disease and have just started one that will investigate dopamine’s effect on cognition. I am a presymtomatic approx 40 yr old woman (5 foot 4) so at least there are some trials that somehow cover different demographics, both sexes etc.