female-only holidays

[Lemoncakestrudel]

Is it too much to ask that holidays in feminist centres set up and run by women, for women and girls should retain their rules of female-born women and girls only (allowing for little boys)?

I will not sleep in a communal bedroom with a man. No matter how much he says he is a woman.

Is this about that rather lovely community-run women's only holiday retreat in the north of England (I've forgotten where it is, but remember coming across it when I was looking for places to go on holiday when DS was much younger)? Don't tell me it's now being targetted.

Ah, it is. I've found the web page (not going to name them because it will lead to a pile on). They seem sensible (which is always going to go down like a lead balloon in certain circles).

If it's the one I'm thinking of, they say it's only for born-and-raised females, so still safe. Apart from small boys, maybe, I didn't notice that not having any sons. I've never been there but can see it's very much needed and how the presence of males, whatever they may think they are, would ruin it.

It was female born women and girls, but someone asked about transwomen. They encouraged people to email them so they can give this issue consideration.

Yes I saw that bit, I haven't emailed as I haven't stayed there nor ever thought about it. Maybe we should all send our thoughts on the issue at hand? Before the transiban get their hooks into it.

Well I emailed them with my thoughts on matters transgender.

I’d just got my head around the idea of a shared sleeping area. It has taken me a long time not to be afraid of going to bed / sleep. I’m not going to pay someone to put me back there again.

Lemon.

I've never visited but read about this place few months ago. It looks likes a real sanctuary for women. It would be tragic if they changed their policy on this issue. I will email them to express support for their existing policy and stop being a lazy bugger and send them some items on their wish list.

There is at least one holiday center unapologetically for 'women' in the traditional understanding of the word only, and they've every right to. No idea how they check though, do you need to show your birth certificate, take chromosome tests, etc.

I want to be sure that I have the right place before I send an email would anyone mind if I messaged them the name of the place just to confirm?

I’ve got an email back saying their stance has not changed and people with other needs will be directed elsewhere.

I don't think they ask for specific proof but retain the right to refuse you entry.

If it's the one I'm thinking of, they've held firm on their natal women only stance for years, despite getting a lot of abuse on their FB page for it. They have posted links to the self-ID consultation questionnaire and to WPUK, and seem to be in absolutely no danger of changing their policy as far as I can see. I don't see what harm there would be in naming the place, since their heads are well and truly above the parapet on this issue.

It's a lovely place to stay, btw. They do allow young male children (can't remember the cut-off age) but they also have weekends just for older lesbians and have various women-centred activities on offer. Anyone who can get there should do!

After some googling I've found it I think and it looks lovely. Definitely considering taking dd there for a weekend this year.