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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans disabled

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ChesterGreySideboard · 22/02/2019 17:44

What the actual hell?
No one is winning here.

nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

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RedRosa90 · 22/02/2019 17:51

That's a four year old article now and not much has come of it, from what I can tell. Unless I've missed something.

Kettleon80 · 22/02/2019 17:51

'Wails' 'stop the world I need to get off'. Now.

ChesterGreySideboard · 22/02/2019 17:52

Oh I didn’t notice the date.

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AncientLights · 22/02/2019 18:02

Still an interesting read though, ChesterGreySideboard. It seems transgender people don't like the transabled, they think they're 'dishonest'. Hmm.

Kettleon80 · 22/02/2019 18:08

This reminds me - I remember reading an article in Take a Break magazine or similar that a woman always wanted to be blind. She wistfully daydreamed about being blond and blindfolded herself wherever possible until one day she made herself blind - can't remember how.

It is absolutely no different whatsoever to the trans argument. In actual fact by their logic this is 'more' credible because you can actually make yourself disabled whereas it's impossible to change sex.

bingoitsadingo · 22/02/2019 18:17

Honestly stuff like this makes me wonder where the fuck we have gone wrong as a society. I can understand wishing you were a different sex, that's as old as time. Wanting to chop off a limb / go blind? How are we so divorced from providing for our survival that this can possibly be attractive to anyone?

Kettleon80 · 22/02/2019 18:31

Being trans has a sexual element - does trans- disabled I wonder?

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/02/2019 18:46

bingo

I've been thinking for a while is it some sort of end of days self annihilation thing. Anyone who knows me irl knows my views on how the world is overpopulated and the only small silver lining in all this idiocy, that raises a wry smile sometimes, is that this means a small percentage of the population will not be able to reproduce, taking one for the team even if they don't realise it. Darwin rules or something like that. Confused

ChesterGreySideboard · 22/02/2019 19:00

Being trans has a sexual element

Does it always? Sure it does for some, but not for all.

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bingoitsadingo · 22/02/2019 19:15

@Iused2BanOptimist

Personally I think it's more likely to be related to wanting to be cared for/looked after/given attention.
I imagine the fantasy of being blind is being looked after, having your whims attended to, not having to work, etc... not stumbling vulnerably around the streets trying to buy food, or losing your home because you can't work and living blindly in a hostel.

TheCraicDealer · 22/02/2019 19:19

I remember her Kettle. IIRC it involved bleach Envy

Interesting about it apparently predominantly affecting men, all the stories I've read about it before involved female sufferers.

AncientLights · 22/02/2019 19:23

I think the article OP linked said that most of the cases referred to in it were males in Germany or Switzerland. It'd be interesting to know if there is a geographical element to this.

Kettleon80 · 22/02/2019 20:02

I believe in the vast majority of cases being trans is sexual, yep

Kettleon80 · 22/02/2019 20:10

I suspect you're right about the trans disabled. I'm sure there some sick fuckers (most likely men) who have some kind of sexual fantasy about it but I'm sure most are women for the reasons described. Or perhaps some very extreme self harm element?

Imnobody4 · 22/02/2019 20:27

A long article but very interesting, I think it does have relevance to trans ideation
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/
'Like Robert Smith, I have been struck by the way wannabes use the language of identity and selfhood in describing their desire to lose a limb. "I have always felt I should be an amputee." "I felt, this is who I was." "It is a desire to see myself, be myself, as I 'know' or 'feel' myself to be." This kind of language has persuaded many clinicians that apotemnophilia has been misnamed—that it is not a problem of sexual desire, as the -philia suggests, but a problem of body image. '

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