Q&A published on the definition of sex and gender

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futureoflegalgender.kcl.ac.uk/q-a/

This project has published some answers to the questions raised about their definitions and intentions. They have also published a number of public events on their website.
I've booked a ticket for the one in London in March.

I've said it before on here but read this book.

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An impassioned defense of intellectual freedom and a clarion call to intellectual responsibility

I can't abide the priv white feminism insult bandied about, but looking at this line up shows it is a thing used to manipulate women succesfully...

futureoflegalgender.kcl.ac.uk/research-team/

I was going to say that it is quite hopeful that so many of the respondents were women, then I remembered they actually meant men who identify as women and women

Itsallgoingtobefine

They also asked:
Does your sex/gender match the sex you were assigned at birth?’: Yes 84.8%; No 15.2%

So even if we assumed that every single person who said no was a trans woman, there are still a lot more women than men (37% max) responding to the survey.

They didn't ask people how they found out about the survey

They also asked:
Does your sex/gender match the sex you were assigned at birth?

Oops. I missed that . In which case I am hopeful as it looks like lots of highly educated women answered...

In which case I am hopeful as it looks like lots of highly educated women answered...

We did, and we are here. Please keep engaging with this project.

futureoflegalgender.kcl.ac.uk/events-and-public-and-policy-engagements/

futureoflegalgender.kcl.ac.uk/further-participation/

Do THIS

Parents of young children

In addition, we are looking for 20 parents of young children who live in England or Wales who would be interested in participating in a face-to-face interview with one of our research team. This interview will aim to explore both your own and your child/ren’s understandings, interpretations, and experiences of gender, and will last for 60 to 90 minutes.

The research team will discuss your participation with you fully before you begin, but at this stage, if you require any further information, please see our participant information sheet (parent interview).

If you have any further questions, or you would like to take part, please contact the research team via [email protected] using ‘participate’ in the subject line.

I would suggest any parent dealing wth online gender grooming gets in touch with this project.

Can anyone explain the second sentence to me please?

It's clearer if you replace the word gender with sex stereotypes.

''For some, sex is a scientific fact of bodily difference on which sex stereotypes are imposed. For others, sex stereotypes provide the framework within which bodies are given meaning as being either one sex or another, and sometimes not comfortably either.''

It's clearer if you replace the word gender with sex stereotypes.

Oh, ok, thanks. The old 'if you like girl things then you're a girl'. I think I understand the meaning. It just makes no sense.

The 'Future of Legal Gender' project got £724k funding from the ESRC.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3419517-The-future-of-legal-gender-survey

I'd love to know how many of the 3101 found the survey through the MN board.

I have had some contact with some of these researchers, who are well-meaning but completely lost in all the pomo third wave feminist crazy.

They insist that this is a feminist project. What they are missing is that it is not a feminist project just because they say it is, it has to actually do something to improve the lives of women.

This project winds back women's rights. The changes in language which they are tracking are not some sort of random natural process in the evolution of ideas which benefit or disadvantage men and women equally. If you are just 'observing' the different ways that people use the terms 'sex' and 'gender' right now, then you are observing the patriarchy in action.

The researchers were surprised by the negative response to the survey. The reason that they had completely missed the outrage and frustration of women at the TRA takeover of the term 'woman' was because women have been systematically excluded from the public debate. Whether it was The Guardian deleting GC comments under its TRA articles or the widespread demonising of FPFW or Stonewall screams of transphobia if a woman stepped out of line, critical voices were sidelined and silenced.

I will give the researchers credit that they are making an effort to engage more widely to better understand the critical responses. The FAQs are an example of this. But I can't see how they are going to get past that pomo third wave thing to observe the shift in power which is underway.

That's very interesting Lukewarm.
I will be going to the event on March 13 at KCL.

Interesting point about the researchers on this project all being white women. There's a lot of internalised guilt among white women academics (funny how you rarely see that with white academic men) and an instinct to 'check their privilege' which is why gender identity ideology has been so successful with them.

Bearing in mind that according to the last census, 86% of the British population were white, they'd need 0.84% of a non-white person on the team to make the team representative.

I wonder if they ever think about the fact that their project to 'abolish' gender (in practice, sex in birth certificates) is actually the epitome of an extreme Anglo-American imperialist ideology that rides roughshod over how most people on this planet understand human reproduction. Which is egg + sperm = baby.

Abolishing the recording and acknowledgment of biological sex will harm women in developing countries and war zones. Do those researchers ever think about that?

The researchers were surprised by the negative response to the survey.

As a researcher do you not have to do some research into the controversies around the subject you are dealing with? Or even just some critical thinking about what you are researching?

We should start by emphasising that FLaG is not an advocacy project.

Never mind that it's a project which advocates for a change in the legal recognition of sex. It's not an advocacy project.

These young nb women are definitely played by the users of white priveledge tropes into progressing the sexual rights of men, without any self awareness of the fact that they are so naive that they can be so easily played. Sharpe is on the board of the project, these researchers must have convinced themselves to believe that the whole bullshit about not having to declare your sex for consent will benefit women, and not just men. They do need to wise up.