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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Great thread by Fionne mentioning certain charities

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NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 15:01

twitter.com/fionneorlander/status/1097901692027318273?

Great thread by Fionne mentioning certain charities
Great thread by Fionne mentioning certain charities
Great thread by Fionne mentioning certain charities
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NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 16:02

And JFC, WTAF, but horribly familiar....

theestablishment.co/japanese-cartoon-porn-helped-me-understand-my-trans-identity-d5bba16cdaf3/

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NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 16:02

(What Fionne is responding to)

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Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 16:20

I took DD to see a V&A exhibition on gaming. In the politics part they included the views of two transwomen (no trans men obviously).
One Katherine Cross (American with a really odd put on British accent) said they found their feminism through gaming.
Another Katelyn Burns said it helped them be themselves through playing games characters.

Both these people are TRAs with long Kiwi Farms threads.

Like the porn Fionne is talking about, I do feel many of the characters in gaming (even the badarse ones) are created by men, through a male perspective. To then some how having this influence your feminism or identity doesn't really make sense to me. Not that any of this makes sense to me.

Great thread by Fionne mentioning certain charities
Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 16:24

Your computer characters aren't real women
Your anime porn figures aren't real women

If you identify as a woman because these things have inspired you then you are as real as they are.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 16:41

Wow that's concerning.

Many young people with asd use gaming like this.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 16:54

Vonny leClerc (vonny bravo) on twitter had done a lot of investigative stuff on animated porn but I'm struggling to find it. And how extreme it was. And allowed.

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Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 17:00

DD2 had a friend who got into that stuff at 12.
They are now non binary....
Well currently

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/02/2019 17:03

Read the furry threads and the hentai threads on kiwi farms.

Being brain bleach, and a stiff cuppa

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 17:16

Is there enough brain bleach in the world?

VittysCardigan · 20/02/2019 17:18

If i am reading that article correctly, that person is admitting that their experience of being trans is actually a fetish. But they still want rights as female?

littlbrowndog · 20/02/2019 17:18

I read the the thread on kiwi farms about lm.
Well

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/02/2019 17:23

Is there enough brain bleach in the world?

No... hence the cuppa (or stronger fare, to suit.) Wink

OrchidInTheSun · 20/02/2019 18:01

Katvonfelttip - I took my kids to that exhibition. I steered them past that bit.

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 18:25

orchid
I looked at "video games are a girl thing" section, and it was mainly about presentations of women as prostitutes in games.
Katelyn Burns didn't even know they were getting quoted. Probably a good job they don't realise they were in the SW*RF section. Grin

DoctoressPlague · 20/02/2019 18:47

From the linked article - what does any of this have to do with being a woman?

But it only took so long before I had to admit: I was jealous. I could barely contain my envy when the hero of Hinemosu Notari’s Mirror Image crossdressed so hard he became a futa, and I saw too much of myself in the shy-but-slutty futas and femboys of the artist InCase. Still, I managed to convince myself I wasn’t trans; I just wanted to live in a girl’s body, like the protagonist in Custom Girl who plays a futuristic VR game that allows him to experience sex as a woman! That’s normal for boys to desire fervently and constantly, right?

I realized later that I’m not the only one who felt this way. Many trans women in my community with whom I’ve spoken have expressed similar feelings about futa and “trap” comics — about boys who are girlish enough to “trap” straight men into having sex with them. Thirty Helens, a trans woman who is herself a creator of futanari comics that she posts on her Tumblr, told me in an interview that consuming futa material before transitioning “helped partly fill a void left by being in the closet while maintaining a mental distance from transness.”

The fervor over whether futa “makes you gay” or “straight” that I used to see online is understandable, she says, “because I used to do all these logic backflips in my head to do anything to convince myself I wasn’t trans while still engaging with that side of me a little.” But, she continued, “it helped me come to terms with a lot of stuff after transition. It helped me to feel more secure and sexy regarding my body.”

Transitioning was inevitable for me as well. Once I read Katou Jun’s Avatar Transform!, there was only so much I could do to deny it. Similar to Custom Girl, the hero in Katou’s story explores a futanari body in a VR world, while slowly abandoning all pretense at maleness in real life.

The more I read the chapters in which he realizes a woman’s body in VR feels more natural than his own, the less I could deny it: I wanted that. I wanted to be cute, girlish, even beautiful. It took until the summer of 2015 — more than 10 years after I first read Tilt Mode — to begin coming out to my friends and family, and months more to begin hormone therapy. But I did it, and the results have been more fulfilling than I could ever have imagined.

All this is not to say that futa is intrinsically a trans genre, nor are all its aficionados trans themselves. But as Thirty Helens says, “I think they’re inherently linked. These bodies resemble our bodies and it’s time to stop pretending otherwise, it’s time to stop being afraid that it makes you gay . . . and maybe even more people can connect in a real way without doing the same thing I did, engaging but still keeping a distance from trans womanhood.”

Futa didn’t make me a dyke-y trans girl. It just helped me realize that’s who I wanted to be. Hopefully, it will help other fledgling dickgirls realize it sooner than I did.

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/02/2019 19:00

its time to stop being afraid that it makes you gay

Add rampant homophobia into the mix.

‘In a girls body’ - just makes me think Ed Gein. Grim

Threewheeler1 · 20/02/2019 19:00

I don't think I can cope with that kiwi farms thread even with the domestos Shock
I really, really like Fionne. We generally need more Fionnes.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 19:16

Fionne is amazing. Seven hex and baby loves blue velvet too (who is on that thread also.)

I'm out of eye bleach so I'll take your word for it.

That article describes pure autogynephilia. And an example of how immersing yourself in virtual reality or online stuff can deeply affect the psyche, let anyone porn.

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Courday · 20/02/2019 20:40

Love Fionne, if only the trans campaign was being fronted by people like her.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/02/2019 20:50

If you look at the top of Fionne's twitter, Seven Hex is trying to start a campaign of this nature.

sevenhex.com/

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Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 20/02/2019 23:35

I didn't last long on the furry farms

I can't sleep now

GrinGin

SignMeUp · 20/02/2019 23:49

Thanks for the sevenhex link, neurotrash

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