James Caspian interview in Sunday Telegraph

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www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/scared-admit-many-people-regret-changing-gender/

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Does anyone have a share token for that, please? (Does the Telegraph even do share tokens??)

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Very deep and interesting piece. I find the whole aura of fear concerning.

If things continue as they are at the moment, will those scaring people into silently behaving be at the front of the queue to say sorry later? I think not.

Either they will fade away or they will be screaming for compensation.

Can’t access it but one of the creepiest things of this whole debacle is James Caspian not being able to get ethical approval to research detransitioned people because Bath spa university thought they might get flak on social media if they hosted this work. WTF does that say about the movement behind all this.

I don't quite understand James's timeline. My MA took one year, so if my topic had been rejected, I would have had to have chosen something else sharpish. How has this been going on for so long? Surely his course has finished by now?

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Normally I think he would have had to come up with a new topic, but as he has made this his hill, the fight means that it will take a lot longer.
This would probably go into some kind of extension.

Thanks, CaitlynsYellowSocks you wouldn't know but that just directs me to the article and I still have to sign up to read it all. Dammit, I'm going to have to sign up!

TRAs always say that regret is rare, less than 5%. Maybe it is rare, but if I found out my car had a 3 or 4% chance of spontaneously exploding while the engine was on I would never drive that bastard again.

TRAs always say that regret is rare, less than 5%. I don't know how they can be so certain when there is so little research.

TRAs often use a statement from Melbourne to come up with 4% as the stat but this ignores that this only includes those followed to late teen years. I have also never been able to ascertain what is deemed by TRAs to be an acceptable figure. 4% is 1 in 25 people at a clinic, that is still significant in my view, that is At what stage would the detransition rate be deemed too high by TRAs and start warranting genuine concern? 10%? 25%? 50% I think we know the answer

It is surely in TRAs’ best interests to show the true rate isn’t it? How low it really is according to them? I think we know the answer to this too

@bluescreen oh no, I'm sorry! It's a button saying "share" so I thought it was a token. Thanks for letting me know

I remember seeing a screenshot of figures from an NHS clinic at a meeting or conference with a 0% detransition rate. it did make me think that NHS waiting lists might be having an effect there. Certainly I knew 3 detransitioners who were at a relatively early stage (one seen by a GIC, one waiting, one post starting hormones). Detransition at different stages is interesting I think. A narrative from activists might be that detransitioners aren't trans so don't affect the story about non-regret of trans people! But it's so important to see being trans as the messy, culturally mediated, psychologically informed process it appears to be.

No worries, CaitlinsYellowSocks, I signed up for one free article a week.

It's an interesting article, and this passage in particular struck me:
The great irony of Caspian’s story is that it would be hard to find a professional more attuned to transgender issues. A psychotherapist and trustee of the transgender charity the Beaumont Trust, Caspian had worked with transgender patients for eight years when he enrolled for the MA at Bath Spa University, which he planned to undertake in his spare time on top of his professional work.

He proposed the research following a discussion with a leading surgeon in the field called Dr Miroslav Djordjevic, who said he had recently carried out seven reversal surgeries.

Caspian had also received online approaches from young women in the US who told him they had undergone double mastectomies and been injected with male hormones, only to change their minds.

As the rate of children & young people identifying as trans is rising fast, the rate of 4% must be out of date, as 4% is based on old research.
Surely research into this area is crucial before allowing life-changing surgeries, puberty blockers etc to be recommended by doctors to young people.
I've never seen much research on transgender experiences of side effects over the age of 40 either, the focus is very much on your appearance when you are young.

HawayMan According to the article Caspian was paying to do the research he proposed himself on top of his professional work. It would have been done by now if it hadn't been blocked by the Uni on methodology grounds, namely confidentiality of data and annonymity of participants.

Article is worth a read as it illustrates just how much this research is needed and how domineering the TRA lobby is preventing academic research about detransitioning.

In the article Caspian is quoted as saying
“I hear many doctors, psychiatrists and clinicians very worried about what is happening and will openly say in private they can’t say anything because they might get sacked,” he says. “What is happening is policy and law is being made without due consideration of solid research and scientific reviewed evidence.”

Yes, quite.