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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do you have gender dysphoria?

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/02/2019 19:55

"Gender dysphoria, or gender identity disorder, is a diagnosis used to describe individuals who exhibit a strong desire to be of the other gender. Take this gender dysphoria test to determine if you have gender dysphoria symptoms that could lead to a diagnosis."

Well I took the test, answered all the (very obvious) questions to indicate that I do not have gender dysphoria and was told

Your answers suggest a mild to moderate indication that you are experiencing symptoms common among people with gender dysphoria Shock

Test is here: www.psycom.net/adult-gender-dysphoria-test/ You don't have the give them your email address to submit results.

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DonaldTwain · 09/02/2019 16:09

I actually cannot complete the questions. They require belief in gender as a factual concept and I do not recognise it as such. I do not have a gender; something which does not exist cannot be at odds with something which does (my sex).
I can see how departing from this mindset is in the interests of the gender industry; I’m not sure it would be helpful to me.

FactsAreNotMean · 09/02/2019 16:11

I just got DH to do it too, and he also has strong indicators of gender dysphoria.

Do I need to tell the kids that I'm now dad and he's mum?

If he's gender dysphoric am I now a lesbian - or am I now a het man? I am so confused. Maybe I'll just say I'm pansexual.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/02/2019 16:33

Do you think pathologising discomfort makes young people less likely to be able to cope with stuff?

I think this is exactly the problem with this sort of thing. We are all able to think critically and realise that this is utter bollocks.

Children / young people / emotionally fragile people may be less able to see this.

It's very easy to self diagnose to explain an issue away rather than accepting it as inevitable part of life. For me puberty was shit, being a teenager and a young adult was shit. This is the same for many many people. It is not something in the vast majority of cases that requires medical intervention.

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FlyingOink · 09/02/2019 16:37

For me puberty was shit, being a teenager and a young adult was shit. This is the same for many many people.
I'm sure it's massively common, I only overshared above because it was relevant.
I think with expectations being so high it's easier to pathologise differences than admit things aren't perfect for whatever other reason.
Certainly the overuse of "ace" as a descriptor for a young child who doesn't want to be preyed upon is one example. They're not asexual, they're 13,14. But in Tumblr they're all ace enbys. Opting out of being a girl and being sexualised.

FactsAreNotMean · 09/02/2019 17:08

Do you think pathologising discomfort makes young people less likely to be able to cope with stuff?

I think this is a definite risk.

It's a normal part of teenage development to feel uncomfortable, I think. Your body is changing hugely and rapidly, your peers are at a range of different stages...it's not unusual to feel discomfort over the whole thing. And that's before you consider the rotten hand that girls are dealt in terms of societal expectations.

I mentioned above that I have autism, but it wasn't diagnosed until I was an adult. As soon as I was diagnosed there was a feeling of "OK, now I know WHY I feel wrong", which is hugely comforting. But initially it also made me think that I didn't need to try and address any of my aspie behaviours/feelings - that if I struggled with X, Y or Z it was because I had autism and so I didn't have to deal with it or try to learn to do it. It was a phase and one I worked through.

I can well imagine that the situation around a GD 'diagnosis' in teens experiencing discomfort could have a similar impact, that they could feel that they don't need to work through their feelings about their body because their body is wrong and that's why they feel that way. But we know that left along, the vast majority will desist. They'll grow up, go through puberty, learn to adapt and deal with their reality.

Shove them on puberty blockers and they will never get the chance to come to terms with the body they have.

Bowlofbabelfish · 09/02/2019 17:19

Do you think pathologising discomfort makes young people less likely to be able to cope with stuff?

I think people now are just less good at coping with any kind of physical or mental discomfort. How do you think we’d deal with a blitz or rationing now? Or the kind of physical conditions of poverty that a lot of our parents grew up in (no heating, no running water, no gas or electric.)

We are also less psychologically resilient in many ways. More primed to want instant gratification because that’s what advertising and a consumer economy relies on.

There’s also the insidious no platforming, no debate thing and the idea that the mere exposure to uncomfortable thoughts or ppinions is physically harmful. Trigger warnings on trivial stuff, safe spaces where none are needed. social justice warriors crushing any dissent and weaponising offence. This stops young people facing these ideas and examining them deeply, then creating or debating their rejoinder. It leaves people vulnerable and fragile.

None of this develops resilience or grit. And those are what makes you a strong person.

AliyyaJann · 09/02/2019 17:22

Strong indication and should see a bloody doctor.

FlyingOink · 09/02/2019 18:31

How do you think we’d deal with a blitz or rationing now? Or the kind of physical conditions of poverty that a lot of our parents grew up in (no heating, no running water, no gas or electric.)
I don't know. It might not be as bad as you think.
Put it this way. The best advice I ever had on dealing with heartbreak (which is always a bit insular and self-obsessed by it's nature) was to keep busy. It works. I'm still alive despite having my heart broken. Go me.
If young people are dwelling on their gender, or anything about themselves, for too long, they lose a sense of perspective.
Having to work out how to make potato peel pie or how many times bathwater can be used before there's no point makes it hard to worry about navel-gazing. Likewise fetching coal, building shelters, worrying about your family staying alive.
I sound a bit "never did me any harm" Daily Mail there and I don't mean to, but I think a lot of our psychological issues are due to a lack of physicality in our everyday lives. It's possible to spend a day, a week, even, not leaving the house, not cleaning up, having food delivered, being online all the time, only having sex with yourself, etc. I think it's possible to lose touch with being a body, an animal, with normal needs like sunlight, fresh food, exercise and interaction with others.
And whereas real life invariably means brushing up against people you don't like, but who you have to play along with (because they're your boss, or the neighbour, or whatever) online you can live in a bubble, where everyone agrees with you and anyone who doesn't is a Nazi.
I'm not pointing fingers, I'd find it difficult to log off and stay offline long term, but it would make a real difference in some confused children's lives.

Vixxxy · 12/02/2019 15:26

Everyone who is not a walking stereotype has 'gender dysphoria', lets be honest.

Your answers suggest a Strong indication that you are experiencing symptoms common among people diagnosed with gender dysphoria. However, this quiz is no substitute for a proper diagnosis from a health care professional and we would encourage you to schedule an appointment with your doctor or other mental health professional now.

I think it really should be retermed sex dysphoria (I use this anyway) and ignore the stereotypical shite. A while back I read a guide on how to diagnose children with gender dysphoria..it was basically 'do you do girl things when you are a boy' and stuff like..are most of your friends the same sex or not. Total rubbish and terrifying that kids are being diagnosed and treated because of this nonsense.

Aridane · 12/02/2019 17:24

Ahem - it would seem that I have mild indications of a paranoid personality disorder but, happily, little or mild sociopathy

ErrolTheDragon · 12/02/2019 17:38

So if you answer one question which I'd interpret as 'No sexism, please' they reckon mild to moderate GD?Hmm

It would be funny, except that presumably gullible kids come across this sort of crap.Angry

Aridane · 12/02/2019 18:14

It’s just a crap quiz - they give you mild to moderate even when you answer no to everything!

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