Requesting a woman as a chaperone for medical procedures

[OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon]

The erosion of women’s boundaries continues apace under the name of trans inclusion, prizing validation over women’s rights to consent and dignity.

I’ve never been asked!

LordProf then you have had some doctors who are playing fire with their reputations, assuming it was an undressing scenario. It's guidance from their professional indemnity organisation as much as the NHS that says offer a chaperone. My beef is that nowhere mentions specifically offer same sex chaperone. You should never have to justify it.

Blimey! To be honest my old surgery wasn’t the most well organised.

A slight derail but it is worth checking your local NHS policy documents.

Such as this Equality , Diversity and Inclusion Report (Guildford and Waverley Clinical Commissioning Group) where they have removed "sex" as a protected characteristic and included "gender" in its place.

I wonder if it is acceptable practice in the NHS to change the wording of the Equality Act when quoting it in policy documents?

It's weird because if I was writing an Equality report I would quote the the relevant law word for word, I wouldn't presume to just change aspects of it that I didn't like!

Also if it is acceptable to change the wording of laws it is no wonder nobody actually knows where they stand or what their rights are!

Presumably the presence of a chaperone is also to protect the health professional against false claims of impropriety.

I’m guessing a good number of women would feel uncomfortable with having a vaginal examination behind two curtains in the presence of two males only. The female dr probably saw the situation and was concerned the woman hadn’t been given much choice/consent in the matter. Hard to know without the full details.

Unfortunately when it comes to gynaecological health/childbirth/women’s intimate health, the dignity/privacy and mental wellbeing of the woman is rarely considered or given a shit about.

I mean the whole scenario doesn't ring true, to me. Yelling through a closed curtain about the need for a chaperone, when there are two biological men in with a woman having an intimate exam?

The utter lack of sensitivity in either writing about this as a fantasy, or experiencing it in reality, is enough reason to not let this person be a chaperone.

It looks as though that Twitter account has now been suspended.

mobile.twitter.com/Nhsccio is still active, concerning considering his opinions, misogyny, power and control over the public.

It's guidance from their professional indemnity organisation

This is an important point that we've made about other areas: Guides, for example. Liability and indemnity insurance requires safeguarding protocols for obvious reasons. I'm certain a great many orgs and institutions are busy invalidating their various insurance mechanisms and leaving themselves wide open to action.

I don't agree feedmebooks I think they are separate categories, and that needs making clear. I only want women to do exams say, that doesn't mean I want a man who says he's a woman to do an exam, so does have to include all categories of sex as distinct, there are now four, men, women, men who have transitioned to female appearance, and women who have transitioned to male appearance.

Is self-ID now law?

So, also, those that are men but say they are really women, and women that say they are really men (I don't think I've heard anything from them though, stall, ever)

So is the Trans NHS tweeter actually an official NHS account?? Or is it basically just another Tara Hewitt account for misogynising?

I’d be amazed - fewer than 800 twitter followers and a handful on Facebook.

Smotheroffive I just think the clearer & simpler the phrasing the less opportunity for people to apply a variety of meanings or dream up some exception..Maybe 'same biological sex' would do it?

Yep, it would, ordinarily, buyout see this is exactly the nail on the head because in this pretend world they are the same sex as us, and they keep claiming it, we keep saying but thats just not true; we as women, are not the same as women that have transitioned to male appearance, and we're not the same as men that have transitioned to female appearance. The TW take female hormones and the TM male, it makes them different to men or women, doesn't make them the same as, as we know.
The only way round the crap claims is to have four categories afai can see

Keep fighting for reality world...keeping it real

The TransNHS twitter account has been reinstated - no prizes who is being blamed for the 'targeted reporting' that led to it being suspended.

One of their tweets from 6th Feb:

"Just to be clear legally it is never ok to question a trans clinicians gender in person or not. You are not able to say I want a cisgender clinician any more than you can say you want a white one."

So the author of these tweets clearly believes that women are (legally? morally?) obliged to undergo intimate procedures undertaken by anyone who says they are also a woman?

I actually wouldn't have an issue with a man with whom I felt at ease undertaking an intimate examination. I would certainly have an issue re. being pressurised into being examined by a trans individual whose fragile/distorted sense of self and need for validation is perceived to outweigh my own rights to bodily autonomy, dignity and privacy. And I would include both pre-op (non-op) and post-op trans people in that category now. I actually feel that I would now feel far less comfortable with a trans healthcare professional than I would have done a few years ago.

This is in no way equivalent to refusing to be examined by a healthcare professional of a different race.

Jfc, what happened to, 'the care of your patient is your first concern'? Newsflash, TransNHS: it's not all about you, as much as you really, really think it is, as much as you keep telling us it is, over and over again.

What about in surgery too!? Dignity and privacy is a right when you are unconscious especially, given the ki d of things rape that have been happening when opportunity has arisen, there are male surgical teams members (no sick pun intended) that have broken these legalities.