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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBT History Month: PSHE Resource Pack for Schools (2017) doesn't list SEX as a protected characteristic under the EA 2010. Is this still the case?

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frazzled1 · 03/02/2019 20:42

www.theproudtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/download-manager-files/HMpack%202017_final_digital.pdf

Anyone know if this resource pack from The Proud Trust has been updated since 2017? (DD's school are using it this month). Usual conflation of sex and gender. The 2017 version states:

EQUALITY ACT

In this year, the UK government introduced a piece of legislation that brought together all the previously existing anti-discriminatory law.

It states that it is unlawful to discriminate against someone on account of sexual orientation and gender reassignment amongst other characteristics. The other ‘protected characteristics’ are race, religion,gender, disability, age, marriage, pregnancy and maternity.

Also contains 'assigned at birth' and our old friend the Genderbread Person.

Does anyone know if this resource pack for schools now includes sex as a protected characteristic or is it still gender?

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StealthPolarBear · 03/02/2019 20:43

Ooh how odd.

StealthPolarBear · 03/02/2019 20:44

According to Google sex is one of the characteristics

NothingOnTellyAgain · 03/02/2019 20:48

Lots of transing of historical people in there...

frazzled1 · 03/02/2019 20:57

Schools should be making it clear sex is a protected characteristic. Am concerned they're using an out of date resource pack that muddles sex and gender. Or maybe it's still the same in the pack this year.... could muddy the water for our girls and their sex based rights and boundaries.

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OdeToDiazepam · 03/02/2019 21:07

This needs raising with the people responsible

MillytantForceit · 04/02/2019 10:31

Handy contact form on the website.

MillytantForceit · 04/02/2019 10:42

From the Horse's Mouth of the Equality and Human Rights Commission:

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/equality-act/protected-characteristics

'Gender' has been substituted for sex.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 10:46

gawd I thought you meant ehrc had changed it!

MillytantForceit · 04/02/2019 10:48

...Not yet.

Give it time.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/02/2019 10:58

Yes, the EHRC has sex, and for avoidance of doubt if you click through the links in that document:

'In the Equality Act, sex can mean either male or female, or a group of people like men or boys, or women or girls.'

Sex. Male or female. Not 'gender'.

This needs correcting wherever this conflation occurs. It may sometimes be being done ignorantly as a euphemism, but the two words are not functionally synonymous any more (if they ever were). More likely it's being done either deliberately or with the misconceived notion of being 'more inclusive'. The latter, given that specific exemptions to the E.A. are allowed, is not acceptable. Single sex provisions are specifically not supposed to be 'inclusive'.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 04/02/2019 10:58

More proof this is a top down push.

Olgatheoptimist · 04/02/2019 12:26

Have emailed. Am not having this crap.

OdeToDiazepam · 04/02/2019 14:48

Where is the email or contact form please? Happy to add my voice

MillytantForceit · 04/02/2019 14:50

www.theproudtrust.org/contact/

OdeToDiazepam · 04/02/2019 14:52

Thanks

OdeToDiazepam · 04/02/2019 14:55

Done

ImPreCis · 04/02/2019 15:56

There is a new resource pack for each year. Go to The Proud TRust website. There is one for 2019. I had a skim read of the teachers resource and could find the EA act, but I have searched for about 2 mins on a phone screen so it could still be there.

I would consider withdrawing my ‘cis’ child from these classes.

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 04/02/2019 16:03

You can only withdraw from sex Ed, RE and collective worship so I think you’d have to keep them off (if you knew when it was) as you can’t withdraw them.

Maybe point out this omission to the head and query if this shoddy resource is for purpose.

ImPreCis · 04/02/2019 16:16
  • COULDN'T find EA Act mentioned

Gingerbread person still there. Also Gender given at birth. Apparently now we are never given a sex, even at birth.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:17

just poking around teh resources

"Many people think that being Trans means you will never be able to get a job or have a successful life. "

I never thought that until I read it just now!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:20

their list of trans people is a bit ???

danny la rue?
Grayson perry identifies as male!
dr barry - is long dead and this def falls into historical transing of gnc women
googled hetty king - male impersonator in the music hall? female stage name married to a bloke, also had principal boy roles... long dead of course so transed

that's just the ones I spotted

www.theproudtrust.org/resources/trans-resources/famous-trans-people/

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:21

if trans means GNC then pretty much everyone is trans

they dont' seem to have twigged onto that yet though!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:23

www.theproudtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/download-manager-files/Trans%20Invisibility%20Audit%20for%20Schools%20and%20Youth%20Organisations.pdf

points 3 and 5 are Confused

point 6 - i don't worry about spelling usually but this is an official guidance doc written by a charity?

i'll keep poking around

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:26

on sport

they believe it is trabsphobic to separate sports by sex rather than gender

and say

"Young lesbian, gay and bisexual people should never be
asked to change separately from heterosexual young
people. If young people complain about sharing changing
facilities with young LGB people, they should be educated
and their comments and attitude should be positively
challenged.
Equally, young trans people should be supported to
use the changing facilities and toilets of the gender in
which they present and participate in sport. It is highly
likely, however, that young trans people may experience
anxieties around communal changing rooms. It is
therefore important to talk to the young trans person
and discuss their options. For example, are there single
changing cubicles that can be accessed? It is essential in
all discussions and negotiations to put the privacy and
dignity of the young trans person first. "

First - before the privacy and dignity of any of teh children they are changing with.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/02/2019 16:27

can't find the current guidance to see if they have done away with sex as a protected characteristic (illegally)

the stuff about changing suggests they have

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