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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What Pakistan gets right and the US gets wrong on trans rights

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QuietContraryMary · 31/01/2019 22:59

edition.cnn.com/2019/01/31/opinions/united-states-pakistan-transgender-rights-khan-greene/index.html

Essentially this is someone, in all seriousness, claiming that Pakistan is more progressive than the US, because Muslim leaders recognise transgender marriages etc and earlier this year past transgender-friendly legislation .

The idea that transgenderism is popualar with religious fundamentalists as a 'solution' to homosexuality is not even broached.

Here, meanwhile is what it's like being a lesbian in Pakistan.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/what-its-like-live-life-13824916

"Zayna, not her real name, says that while studying for her PhD she was kicked out of university because fellow academics feared she was a ‘dangerous’ influence.

And when colleagues at an Islamic School found out about her sexuality, Zayna says she was told to leave or face action from the police."

www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/6/08/exclusive-deadly-dangers-gay-dating-apps-pakistan

"VICE News has teamed up with Jigsaw (Alphabets’s tech incubator, formerly Google Ideas) to create Blackout, a new series that investigates the state of free expression in the world. The first episode, “Blackout: Pakistan,” takes viewers to a country where homosexuality is illegal and carries a jail sentence of two to 10 years.

“One of the major roadblocks towards LGBT rights and protections within Pakistan is the religious establishment,” explains VICE News.

Gay people not only face potential incarceration for their identities, but they are frequently confronted by violence, and too often, murder. Though hookup apps like Grindr and Scruff offer a certain level of anonymity, recently a 20-year-old man was arrested for luring other men off of a secret gay Facebook group, and, after going on a date and having sex, strangling them to death. He claimed he was trying to stop the spread of evil.VICE News has teamed up with Jigsaw (Alphabets’s tech incubator, formerly Google Ideas) to create Blackout, a new series that investigates the state of free expression in the world. The first episode, “Blackout: Pakistan,” takes viewers to a country where homosexuality is illegal and carries a jail sentence of two to 10 years.

“One of the major roadblocks towards LGBT rights and protections within Pakistan is the religious establishment,” explains VICE News.

Gay people not only face potential incarceration for their identities, but they are frequently confronted by violence, and too often, murder. Though hookup apps like Grindr and Scruff offer a certain level of anonymity, recently a 20-year-old man was arrested for luring other men off of a secret gay Facebook group, and, after going on a date and having sex, strangling them to death. He claimed he was trying to stop the spread of evil."

It's probably a good sign when you are agreeing with one of the most fundamentalist, misognyistic societies on earth, that you have got things wrong.

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GrinitchSpinach · 31/01/2019 23:02

Gross. That is all.

Oxytocindeficient · 01/02/2019 07:46

Really gross.

RiverTam · 01/02/2019 07:49

Not the first time I've seen this argument, it really does prove the point that a) TRAs will appropriate anything to prop up their position, however ludicrous oe inappropriate and b) they have shit for brains.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/02/2019 07:50

Note at the top of the article

Editors Note:Shamus Khan is professor and chair of the sociology department at Columbia University. Joss Greene is a Ph.D. candidate in the sociology department at Columbia University. The views expressed in this commentary are their own. View more opinion on CNN.

CNN may well distance themselves from such egregious bollocks

Dia12 · 01/02/2019 08:01

I don't think this issue is exclusive to Pakistan. India has the same problem. Russia, Uganda, and to some degree China too...the list could go on.

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