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Powerlifting federation states that 'male development' due to androgens in puberty creates irreversible advantages

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QuietContraryMary · 31/01/2019 12:52

This follows this cheating piss-taker, JayCee Cooper:

www.citypages.com/news/powerlifting-federation-doubles-down-on-policy-excluding-trans-women/505092342

JayCee joined the shit-tier cheats powerlifting federation, USPA Powerlifting

www.uspa.net/

This allows competitors to take steroids.

JayCee is very proud of setting the 'state record' for women in the cheats lifting federation: www.instagram.com/p/BtHkZavluSv/

USA Powerlifting, meanwhile has stated that transgender women, aka biological males, competing with biological females is completely contrary to their ban on the use of steroids (aka male sex hormones) by both sexes.

"The first has to do with the use of testosterone or other androgens, commonly used to assist in transition from female to male. By virtue of the anabolic nature of these compounds, they are not allowed, nor is a Therapeutic Use Exemption granted for such use for anyone. This applies to any and all medical conditions which might be treated through use of androgens.

The second area involves the participation of male to female competitors. Through analysis the impact of maturation in the presence naturally occurring androgens as the level necessary for male development, significant advantages are had, including but not limited to increased body and muscle mass, bone density, bone structure, and connective tissue. These advantages are not eliminated by reduction of serum androgens such as testosterone yielding a potential advantage in strength sports such as powerlifting.

The IPF added acceptance of the International Olympic Committee Guidelines on inclusion of transgender individuals in competition. However, the IOC Guidelines also allows sports to determine the impact on fair play through such inclusion. The IPF Medical Committee, while respecting the rights of those who choose to transition, has been consistent in its opinion that use of testosterone and participation of male to female transgender athletes in our sport compromises fair play."

This is clear and straightforward common sense obvious to anyone who isn't completely hard of thinking - no amount of blockers, contraceptive pills, whatever, a mature adult male can take, will reverse his formed male skeleton & body.

Anyone has watched literally almost any other sport would realise the same principles invariably apply.

Powerlifting federation states that 'male development' due to androgens in puberty creates irreversible advantages
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GrinitchSpinach · 31/01/2019 13:06

Sanity prevailing? I keep re-reading looking for the catch!

CallingDannyBoy · 31/01/2019 13:18

Hopefully it’s a start can’t believe people cannot see how unfair it is - thank god sanity is breaking out

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 31/01/2019 13:25

brilliant.

HamiltonCork · 31/01/2019 13:43

Maybe people are starting to notice just how naked that emperor really is?

cheminotte · 31/01/2019 13:46

That is really good news

VickyEadie · 31/01/2019 13:59

I just said out loud "No shit, Sherlock..."

It astonishes me on a daily basis that this is even considered, yet - here we are.

williteverend99 · 31/01/2019 14:18

Does this stuff happen in UK? The Equality Act of 2010 seems to be pretty clear that it should not:

(1)A person does not contravene this Act, so far as relating to sex, only by doing anything in relation to the participation of another as a competitor in a gender-affected activity.

(2)A person does not contravene section 29, 33, 34 or 35, so far as relating to gender reassignment, only by doing anything in relation to the participation of a transsexual person as a competitor in a gender-affected activity if it is necessary to do so to secure in relation to the activity—

(a)fair competition, or

(b)the safety of competitors.

(3)A gender-affected activity is a sport, game or other activity of a competitive nature in circumstances in which the physical strength, stamina or physique of average persons of one sex would put them at a disadvantage compared to average persons of the other sex as competitors in events involving the activity.

(4)In considering whether a sport, game or other activity is gender-affected in relation to children, it is appropriate to take account of the age and stage of development of children who are likely to be competitors.

Qcng · 31/01/2019 14:40

So USPA powerlifting allows competitors to take steroids? And allows MTFs to compete against women?

But USA Powerlifting does not allow either as it recognises fair play.

Are the two associated in any way?

I hadn't heard of Jay Cee before. These cheating pisstakers are sociopaths.

Notevenmyrealname · 31/01/2019 14:42

As someone who has done a little Olympic weightlifting, this is a sport where the physical differences could not be any more blatantly bloody obvious. Hopefully other sports will start to recognise this.

FlyingOink · 31/01/2019 14:53

“USA Powerlifting is an inclusive organization for all athletes and members who comply with its rules, policies, procedures, and bylaws,” it says.

But: “USA Powerlifting is not a fit for every athlete and for every medical condition or situation.”

That seems such a reasonable statement. I bet £10 Pritzker funds a lawsuit asap.

AnotherBewilderedQuoll · 31/01/2019 15:06

Very good. It's only frustrating that this hasn't been blindingly fecking obvious to all sporting associations from day one. Or, that is has been but they'be pretended otherwise for the funding and good-boy points.
Nevertheless, I'm glad

Oxytocindeficient · 31/01/2019 15:15

This is really good.

2019StandingforWomen · 31/01/2019 15:19

Excellent news. Obviously a body that cares about women's sports full stop

GrinitchSpinach · 31/01/2019 18:07

Rachel McKinnon weighs in with the ol' 'wrong side of history' objection:

Powerlifting federation states that 'male development' due to androgens in puberty creates irreversible advantages
happydappy2 · 31/01/2019 18:22

The IOC guidelines allow sports to determine the impact of fair play through such inclusion.

Surely more sports must apply logic regarding this-males should not compete against females in many sports. A small victory.

WokerThanWoke · 31/01/2019 19:01

Logical, sensible, accurate... what am I reading?!

Oxytocindeficient · 31/01/2019 19:10

Oh how I dislike McKinnon

VickyEadie · 31/01/2019 19:14

I'm still flabbergasted that the IOC etc appear to know nothing about the advantages conferred for life by being born male.

Doobigetta · 31/01/2019 19:29

I hope USA Powerlifting can find the time to provide McKinnon with the sources they’ve asked for. It’s a sensible question that deserves a comprehensive response.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 31/01/2019 19:31

This won’t do down well. Oh no.

HermioneWeasley · 31/01/2019 19:33

Heartening to see common sense applied

AnyOldPrion · 31/01/2019 19:34

Oh how I dislike McKinnon

Polite and succinct. McKinnon certainly has some qualities that are difficult to appreciate!

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the Olympics. I should imagine if there are many transwomen competing in weight lifting, there might be booing from the audience. Cheats tend to be unpopular with most of the general population.

Juells · 31/01/2019 20:49

VickyEadie
I'm still flabbergasted that the IOC etc appear to know nothing about the advantages conferred for life by being born male.

But it is only 'appear'. Nobody really believes it, it's all just shittery and wokeness, with a bit of a 'fuck you' to women in the mix. Whenever anything appears in the media, it's amazing how many lunks turn up in the comments to go "ha ha ha ha women wanted equality they don't like it when they get it".

BlindYeo · 31/01/2019 23:46

This is great news.

I only hope it encourages other sporting bodies to step up and say the same.

BettyDuMonde · 01/02/2019 00:47

i very much suspect that there are trainers/coaches actively on the look out for MtF trans athletes. A couple of Hannah Mounceys on the team will be seen as a bonus amongst those who care more about winning than they do about women.

I’m hoping that Martina Navratilova and Judy Murray have joined forces to bend the ears of every sporting professional they can collectively muster up a contact for.

/puts USA Powerlifting on the nominations list for the FWR awards 2019.