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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Letter in The Times by Scottish academics and activists

11 replies

Igneococcus · 29/01/2019 07:15

Article in the Scotland section:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-need-more-say-on-gender-reform-89brd95pj?shareToken=9519a3fba296e4b364bc113e9033d7b2

and the letter (need to scroll right down):

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/times-letters-concerns-over-sale-of-gene-tests-on-nhs-dnjwts96g?shareToken=29e73d7c21f3ae178eac50b2e6c7f6da

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Hackedoffwoman · 29/01/2019 07:21

Excellent work! Great to see Scotland leading the way in this .

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 29/01/2019 08:20

Well done to those women for speaking up

Melroses · 29/01/2019 08:51

They are right. There has been a dearth of equality impact reports in all this. The original GRA got away with it because of the very small number predicted (5000). Effects on other protected characteristics have been not only ignored, but denied with no evidence. There are no impact studies on effects on protections on sex, nor on protections on race.

morningtoncrescent62 · 29/01/2019 10:45

Some good comments under the article.

WokeNotBloke · 29/01/2019 11:02

Scotland is a great place to focus action. Government is more integrated and Edinburgh is a village, so often easier to make progress. Arguments won in Scotland establish principles, and are more difficult to dismiss from uk wide debate. Civil servants do love precedence. Some formidable signatories to that letter. Well done all involved.

Mumfun · 29/01/2019 11:40

Scotland is a great place to focus action. Government is more integrated and Edinburgh is a village, so often easier to make progress. Arguments won in Scotland establish principles, and are more difficult to dismiss from uk wide debate. Civil servants do love precedence. Some formidable signatories to that letter. Well done all involved.

This!

Well done all signatories!

ErrolTheDragon · 29/01/2019 11:48

Scotland is a great place to focus action.

I got the impression the TRAs had realised that before us, and there's been some regressive moves (from the POV of women) north of the border?

CroneAlone · 29/01/2019 12:48

Unfortunately the SNP government is dependent on Green Party votes. So Patrick Harvey, who is no friend to women. But yes Edinburgh is a village and MSPs are pretty accessible. There's been a lot of lobbying and I think most of them have had their ears bent by GC constituents.

CroneXX · 29/01/2019 22:31

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TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 30/01/2019 01:43

Here's a link to an excellent children's rights impact assessment by a group called Women & Girls in Scotland.

https://twitter.com/wg_scotland/status/1090399146622795776?s=21

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 30/01/2019 01:48

Girl guides I hope this helps parents of girls you are supposed to care for kick your arses over your woeful trans "inclusive" policies you farmed out to trans lobbyists who haven't got a fucking clue about safeguarding or children's rights.

At present, and under the Equality Act 2010, young people are entitled to single-sex provision in order to protect their right to privacy, dignity and safety. In recommending a blanket policy where transgender young people are allowed to use the facilities they are most comfortable with, take part in the sporting category they are most comfortable with, and to share overnight accommodation with young people of the opposite sex, this guidance could jeopardise these rights.

The relevant rights identified are:

• Article 2, the right not to be discriminated against
• Article 3, the right to have all children’s best interests taken into account as a
primary consideration
• Article 5, the right for children to have parental support to aid them in
exercising their rights, and to have their evolving capacities taken into account
• Article 6, the right to life, survival and development
• Article 12, the right for children to have their views respected
• Article 14, the right for children to have a religious affiliation without this
hindering their rights to non-discrimination or privacy
• Article 16, the right to privacy
• Article 18, the right for children to have their parents take primary
responsibility for their best interests, and the right of children to have the state
assist their parents in fulfilling this responsibility
• Article 28, the right to education
• Article 39, the right to recover from abuse

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