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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dancing on ice-woman risks serious injury performing the headbanger

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happydappy2 · 27/01/2019 18:59

Just flicking through channels & came accross dancing on ice, one poor girl has just performed the headbanger, whereby the male partner (presume professional skater) holds her by her ankles & swings her round 360o repeatedly with her head scarily close to being crashed into the ice.....I feel quite sick that this is entertainment......she is not a pro skater & the risk of brain injury is huge. Anyone else think this level of risk is insane? Note the chap is not really at risk of major head trauma.....

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/01/2019 07:31

Erm... well... to be totally honest, it's a competitive sport being used for titillation. Like the diving board one, or the ski jump one there are lots of opportunities for self destruction!

Men are in a lot of physical danger in many other manoevres, this one happens to allow a woman to show that she too is fucking stupid truly brave!

andyoldlabour · 28/01/2019 07:50

"she is not a pro skater & the risk of brain injury is huge. Anyone else think this level of risk is insane?"

I agree Happydappy, I think the TV shows (Jump, Splash etc) are pushing the bounds too much, just to up the ratings. The ex gymnast Beth Tweddle is sueing the Jump for her injuries - broken vertebrae, spinal cord surgery - whilst taking part in the show.

iVampire · 28/01/2019 07:58

The Jump has had the most injuries.

People like watching accidents - I can think back to my DMum watching the cross country in the hope she’d see Princess Anne fall off.

If you think participants are not being properly informed about the risks, this invalidating their consent, then you have a point. But that is a serious accusation to make against the makers of that programme (or any of the other dangerous ones mentioned in the thread), as would any suggestion of coercion

There is no reason why a woman should not consent to a perfectly legal manoeuvre, which is well established (it wasn’t devised for the show) simply because she is a woman.

Spam88 · 28/01/2019 08:52

They all do the head banger and have since the program started, which makes me wonder if it isn't as dangerous as they make out.

BoglingToAswad · 28/01/2019 09:05

They all do the head banger and have since the program started, which makes me wonder if it isn't as dangerous as they make out.

It isn't, and it isn't nearly as skilled as lifts used in real ice dancing either, but I imagine it's more entertaining to watch to people without the background knowledge.

ChakiraChakra · 28/01/2019 09:11

I don't watch these things and have managed to miss the news of beth tweddle. Sounds like a devastating injury for anybody, but for a top gymnast... 😯

...I wonder if she's going to win her case. Surely the risk of personal accident is well known to anybody attempting such things, and I presume she wasn't coerced into signing up not knowing this.

feelingverylazytoday · 28/01/2019 11:10

Not really a feminist issue, is it.

Howdoidothis4eva · 28/01/2019 11:20

I don't think she should win the case. She must've been aware of the possible risks when she signed up to do the show. If she wasn't prepared to live with the consequences, she shouldn't have taken the money paid to take part.

VickyEadie · 28/01/2019 11:22

My brother and I were discussing the Tweddle case at the weekend. He said he cannot believe there aren't massive disclaimers written into the contracts but in any case, who goes in for ski jumping without realising there are risks of quite serious injury?

Spam88 · 28/01/2019 12:17

There's potentially a case if they didn't take all reasonable measures to keep them safe though, obvious risks of the sport aside. You can't get around your legal health and safety duties by making people sign disclaimers.

traceyracer · 28/01/2019 12:18

I'm sure they know what they are doing, a high-profile show like that one would be under a lot of scrutiny to ensure everyone's safety and wellbeing

ChakiraChakra · 28/01/2019 12:18

Massive disclaimers are one thing, but you can't sign away your rights to a safe working environment. There are oodles of reasons why she might have a successful case - risk assessments not done properly or not followed, her instructor misjudged her ability and pushed her too far, wrong or damaged equipment or environment not made as safe as possible...

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