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Another rapist paedophile changing gender & erasing previous identity

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QuietContraryMary · 25/01/2019 11:28

www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/17384498.worcester-transgender-woman-previously-convicted-of-rape-breaches-order/

This is Christopher Worton, who pleaded guilty to five counts of rape against a child aged between 13 and 15 in 2014.

He is now known as Zoe Lynes, having changed his name in 2017.

His defence lawyer, defending him in a charge of breaching his sexual harm prevention order by visiting a home where he knew children would be present said

'the defendant had experienced isolation as a result of her gender transition.'

So not because he's a paedo rapist then?

OP posts:
SinceYouAskMe · 26/01/2019 07:55

The problem is that about half of UK teens have had sex before they’re 16. If you started prosecuting everyone involved you’d never do anything else.

feministfairy · 26/01/2019 08:19

Purplewithgreenspots
One of the reasons why abuse scandals in Rotherham etc continued for so long was because the girls concerned were seen as 'consenting' or 'complicit' in their own abuse. It has taken over a decade for professionals to be forced to see that this is 'child sexual exploitation. Because vulnerable girls ran away, said that they 'loved' their abusers etc the police, social services 'took them at their word' and failed to protect them from their rapists. As the scale of the abuse emerged up and down the country, the authorities were finally forced to acknowledge that these teenagers had been groomed, gaslighted and abused. Hence the continued current prosecutions.
We should all be looking very carefully at how our wonderful, intelligent and wilful teenagers can genuinely 'consent' to adult decisions and activities that will have life long consequences. Upholding the age of consent is a vital tool in this.
There are too many people desperate to exploit our children for their own sexual / ideological / selfish wishes. No parent (or other concerned adult) should be ashamed of standing between these people and a child.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 08:24

'the defendant had experienced isolation as a result of her gender transition.'

If I found out that someone in my social circle had raped a child I'd be far more likely to isolate them for that reason than because they liked wearing dresses. I'm just saying...

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 08:29

Christ these men don't need "Better Relationships", they need to fucking stay away from women, for good.

I propose a "No Relationships - The Violent Arsehole's Guide To Learning To Accept The Fact That Women Want Nothing To Do With You" course instead.

SirVixofVixHall · 26/01/2019 14:40

Good post feministfairy.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/01/2019 15:04

There is no such thing as statutory rape here. That is not a term.

Having sex with a child under 13 is supposed to be no excuses but men strangely seem to get away with it.

13-15 the law is there and can be used, however the CPS guidelines say that they are not interested in prosecuting consensual sex between similarly ages teens. However it is there if they need it if eg coercion, grooming, big age difference etc although in practice as PP points out this is not used often enough, society has trouble with teenage girls and the way it sees them is awful but that's another post.

This man is a RAPIST he went to prison for rape of a child no-one in the UK goes to prison for raping a child if they have had consensual sex with a 15yo at 18.

Why the fuck anyone thinks it's OK to swing into a thread about the UK when they have no idea of the law or how things work and say oh this RAPIST poor fella probably just had a girlfriend and got done for it... No thanks I mean really WTF.

He's a convicted child rapist FFS men can't help giivng each other the benefit of the doubt can they which is why women and girls have such a shit time in teh first place

Danaquestionseverything · 26/01/2019 15:07

Ugh. People need to stop using the fact that young teens experiment sexually as an excuse to justify adults fucking them. Not on.

Peer pressure ( friends bragging about stuff that they probably haven’t done anyway). Sexualisation of children by media/fashion. Prevalence of online porn. I could go on.

I weep for today’s youth. At least I only had to deal with peer pressure.

VickyEadie · 26/01/2019 15:07

Transing after you've been jailed for paedophilia and demanding the 'right' to change your name and not be 'deadnamed' is an absolute and utter gift to paedophiles, isn't it?

YankeeDad · 26/01/2019 16:01

Transing after you've been jailed for paedophilia and demanding the 'right' to change your name and not be 'deadnamed' is an absolute and utter gift to paedophiles, isn't it?
^I agree with this 100%. It needs to be stopped.

they have no idea of the law or how things work
^this was true

... and say oh this RAPIST poor fella probably just had a girlfriend and got done for it...
^this is not what I wrote. Substitute "possibly" for "probably", and ditch the "poor fella" since that language assumes innocence to be a fact. I did not. I wrote that I was not sure either way.

My main point in posting at all was actually this: there are plenty of examples where it seems 100% obvious that "trans rights" are being abused by a male sexual predator or otherwise violent criminal in order to escape the consequences of his actions. I want this bullshit to stop. Now.

I am more hopeful that it will be stopped if attention is focused on the obvious examples. From reading this one article, I was unsure whether this one was such a good example.

StrangeLookingParasite · 26/01/2019 16:35

Oh, look, it's a rape apologist identifying as a 'Dad'

Hey, I don't think that was an especially fair accusation - the thought had occurred to me as well, and I definitly didn't know that was how the law worked in the UK (never lived there).

SinceYouAskMe · 26/01/2019 17:01

Any thread about a 15 year old sleeping with a 16 year old will see a large number of well-meaning but misinformed female posters saying “the 16 year old could be convicted of statutory rape because the 15 year old is below the age of consent!” It’s a very widely held belief in the UK. But I hadn’t really realised until now that this means many people don’t understand that a man convicted of rape of a 14 year old has definitely had sex with a child against their will and is a straightforward rapist, no “statutory” about it.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/01/2019 14:25

Of course it's a man giving another man the benefit of the doubt.

Rather than reading it and thinking this is a man who has been convicted of repeated rape against a child and has now breached teh orders against him about contact

He thinks HMMMMMMM what's all this, it could well be that this guy has been unfairly criminalised! I'm going to "do the math" to start digging into whether there's a possibility this poor chap has been imprisoned for consensual sex even though I'm not actually familiar with the laws in the country it happened.

The FIRST instinct was to say hold on how old was he when this happened and maybe he hasn't done anythign wrong.

And then the age. The article says that the rapes were comitted against a girl aged between 13 and 15. And the posters says "It's statutory rape for an 18-year old boy to have sex five times (or once) with his 15-year old girlfriend even if they both feel it's consensual".

So taking the UPPER end of the possible age for the girl. Not the lower end (13).

My first instinct was oh fucking hell another child abuser.

Yes of course there is an awful lot wrong with that post.

GeorgeFayne · 27/01/2019 14:41

I just discovered this website and their crime section is horrifying. Apparently, failing to update sex offender registration after transitioning is a common thing...

We have good reason to be terrified for our safety and that of our children.

womenarehuman.com/category/crime/

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