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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Centers for Disease Control reports nearly 2% of high school students are transgender

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NotTerfNorCis · 25/01/2019 07:46

www.advocate.com/transgender/2019/1/24/cdc-report-nearly-2-percent-high-schoolers-are-transgender

2% of the human species feel like they're trapped in the wrong body? Why didn't we hear about this before? Or does transgender mean something else now... like 'gender non-conforming'. Hmm

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GCSocScientist · 25/01/2019 08:34

Correction, 1.8% of teenagers in urban areas from 10/50 states in the US stated they were transgender in 2017..

My sense is the findings cant be that secure..if it took this long to get out?

Also we have no info on sample size, or crucially on the stability of that statement: whether if we asked the same kids again if they were transgender, if they would again state the same thing.

That’s propaganda not statistics.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/01/2019 08:41

The danger is this becoming normalised, in which case either more kids are going to be wrecking their bodies with hormone treatment and surgery, or they'll have the idea that traditional gender roles are natural and anyone who steps outside of them has a gender that differs from their sex.

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andyoldlabour · 25/01/2019 08:48

"That’s propaganda not statistics."

I totally agree, this is the Daniel Reynolds who wrote that article.

twitter.com/dnlreynolds?lang=en

www.advocate.com/authors/daniel-reynolds

Sicario · 25/01/2019 08:59

I would be interested to see what percentage of high school students identify as gay.

GCSocScientist · 25/01/2019 09:35

Trans ideology is so dangerous as it preys on teenage insecurities, when they are at their most vulnerable.

  1. They are becoming aware of their changing bodies.
  2. They are becoming aware of their sexual desires.
  3. They are transitioning from childhood to adulthood whilst simultaneously learning what it means to be a man or a woman in a horrifically hyper-sexualised time and at a time when the media, social and otherwise, has become an extension of how we communicate/interact.

The media portray the ideal-typical man and woman in such a way that it’s hard to understand how the people we see in real life could possibly fit into the same classifications.

The solution for gender criticals is to smash those ideal-typical stereotypes. The solution for TRAs is to convert a generation of our kids to be sterile, asexual and surgically maimed trans people- neither one sex or the other.

GCSocScientist · 25/01/2019 09:44

andy, yes, I did think there was something off with using the dubious statistic to justify interventions, without first feeling the need to ask why.

Am so scared for kids today, we’ve really let the ball drop allowing them so much access to the bullshit on t’internet. They can’t distinguish what’s true or not, nor of the different agendas behind different sources. Malevolent or others. How could they, they’re kids..

Oblomov19 · 25/01/2019 10:02

Those 'figures' aren't really proper 'statistics' are they? Hmm
Rubbish.
and if it was true, all you could discern from this is that unfortunately it's being normalised. Which is worrying.

JellySlice · 25/01/2019 10:30

I've no doubt that the figures are accurate. But all it means is that, of the 1.8% of [sample] teenagers, a significant proportion are confused and suffering the social contagion of a nonsensical ideology, another significant proportion are acting out teenage rebellion (it was goth in my day), and the rest - as long as they don't progress to drug 'therapy' - are probably safer than they would be if they were trying to make sense of their lives through anorexia or self-harm.

LucyGCmum · 02/03/2019 19:22

Hope someone can help. Just signed up to mumsnet and trying to find a way to share my concerns of current trans ideology (especially indoctrination of young people via social media). I believe there are rules: anyone? Are there any threads I should be looking at to talk to like minded folk. Tried twitter but couldn't say what I needed to in so few characters😂

BickerinBrattle · 02/03/2019 19:32

How did the survey define “transgender”?

It has many meanings. In urban areas of the US, where these days most schools are filled with the upper middle class, since everyone else has been pushed out by housing costs, it is quite chic to be “trans,” which actually involves little more than fashion changes, a new nickname, and signing on for pronoun patrol duty.

Yeahnahyeah · 02/03/2019 19:39

LucyGCMum welcome! The thread Break it Down For Me is good. For a quick synopsis just read the posts, but there are also many many links within the thread for more in-depth analysis. I'll bump it to the top.

Yeahnahyeah · 02/03/2019 19:45

LucyGCMum I'm not very good at finding threads that could help you, so I'll shout out to @ROwantrees who may be able to help. (Sorry for @ing you Rowan).

TurboTeddy · 02/03/2019 20:00

LucyGCMum You're in the feminist chat section of MN so you have found (mostly) like minded people. Welcome.

OlennasWimple · 02/03/2019 20:11

LucyGCMum - there's a pinned thread at the top of the Feminism Chat board that sets out the talk guidelines. Worth reading before posting too much, so that you don't inadvertently fall foul of them

Hulo · 02/03/2019 22:35

That the keypoint @BickerinBrattle...how did they define transgender?

It's such a loose term these days

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