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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I see Daily Mail links posted here a lot for a source

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traceyracer · 24/01/2019 13:46

Just going to leave this here

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46976834

Microsoft Edge has been (since last Aug) warning its users who visit the Daily Mail's website to "proceed with caution: this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability"

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 25/01/2019 13:24

FWIW, I loathe the DM and I'm banned from commenting there, but I'm also deeply suspicious of something that claims to evaluate a news source, it just smacks of censorship. And it's particularly odd if, as pp have said, the same service rates Fox News as accurate.

justasking111 · 25/01/2019 13:29

Saskia and CNN something smells fishy.

www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/24/five-news-publications-deemed-trustworthy-by-newsguard-that-posted-fake-news/

justasking111 · 25/01/2019 13:40

I know there is fake stuff out there on all outlets, media FB, twitter, some folk will fall for it, some will question a sort of cyber chat over the fence with a neighbour. It does worry me though. Found a link, that is really a long read.

slate.com/technology/2019/01/newsguard-nuzzelrank-media-ratings-fake-news.html?via=gdpr-consent

MoltenLasagne · 25/01/2019 13:48

It's very fashionable even still, among certain people, to scorn the DM, and I do suspect that's because they are actually scorning the people they perceive to be 'the kind of people that read the DM'. Which has all sorts of connotations wrt class and privilege, tbh.

I remember an English teacher commenting, rather scathingly, that the DM had an average reading comprehension age of 9 and pointing out all the tips it used to get readers to keep reading implying that they were too stupid to continue of their own accord.

Coming from a family where most of my family read the DM and had left school at 14/15 I was left with no doubt that in her view my family were thickos and that somehow the paper, in trying to be readable, was at fault for not "bettering" them. This teacher viewed herself as moral and righteous on many things, but I've never forgotten the contempt she showed for the wrong thinkers in the working class.

justasking111 · 25/01/2019 13:53

Crikey Molton what did she make of page 3 of the sun I wonder Grin

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 25/01/2019 14:48

Gotta love a plopper

Wait, no i have that wrong

Gotta hate a plopper

And the Wikipedia comment ...hahahahahahahahaaaaa

Still god loves a tryer

MrsTerryPratcett · 25/01/2019 14:58

Molton you'd have loved my English teacher. She was wildly clever but never made anyone feel bad. I made a scathing remark about Jackie Collins once and she made me go and read her books. Because she said, "sex and violence, that's the same as Shakespeare". There was a boy in the class who was a real handful, and she managed to convince him to read Shakespeare based on the same premise.

I absolutely LOVED her and when I was treated really poorly by a sexist maths teacher, she supported me to complain. Apart from my mum and grandmother, she was probably the first awesome feminist I looked up to.

feministfairy · 25/01/2019 16:16

I bet the OP is livid about the Mail's coverage of Jack Shepherd who is publicly demonstrating to the world what DARVO is:

(DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender )

Jan Moir seems to have nailed it:

www.mailonsunday.co.uk/femail/article-6630133/JAN-MOIR-Speedboat-killer-Jack-Shepherd-ignorant-brute-whos-convinced-victim.html

MoltenLasagne · 25/01/2019 16:58

She sounds amazing MrsTP. So true about Shakespeare being sex and violence - my grandma said that if Shakespeare was around now he'd be doing a poetic version of Dynasty!

nauticant · 25/01/2019 17:47

I hear what you're saying MoltenLasagne. I come from a family with limited literacy with the reading material in the house being The Sun and The News of the World. No books.

School was better but as a bog-standard comprehensive we were more likely to have trained in dressage than to have carried out a critical comparative analysis of different media sources.

merrymouse · 25/01/2019 18:04

It's a good idea to check that any 'shocking' news story can be verified elsewhere, whether it is covered in the Mail or the Guardian. Perhaps if the OP could link to a story from the Mail that was widely discussed on this board and later proved to be false?

MargueritaPink · 25/01/2019 18:09

I don't see anything anyone who wasn't Jack Shepherd could object to in Jan No it's article.

MargueritaPink · 25/01/2019 18:20

Jan Moir obviously

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