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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Welp, that's me out.

46 replies

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 23/01/2019 19:36

A 'genderqueer' 'discordion' is now objecting to the term 'homosexual'.

For real.

For some reason, I can't attach the screenshot.

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 23/01/2019 19:39

Say what now? What fresh madness is this? Shock

MrsAird · 23/01/2019 19:44

'discordion'

wtf is that?
an accordion that plays all the wrong notes?

having googled Dictionary dotcom, it appears to be a mischiefmaker...

JSmitty · 23/01/2019 20:06

'discordion'
wtf is that?

I think Captn P'carrrd had a run-in with them in the Delta Quadrant.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/01/2019 20:13

I presume a discordion is one who deliberately and maliciously spreads discord, because they think it is fun. Such characters feature in mythology: Loki, Puck...many cultures had the concept of the trickster god.

Generally things don't end too well for such archetypes...

GoGoJo · 23/01/2019 20:16

Oh yeah I had an argument about that in a work training session the other week. Apparently homosexual is out but queer is fine. I said that I think a lot of people aged 30+ still find queer a slur and although I'm all on board with gay people reclaiming slurs I would not feel it was appropriate language for me to use. Eventually we agreed to disagree!

Badstyley · 23/01/2019 20:34

Anybody who calls me queer gets told to eff off. I’ve always hated it, and even more so now it’s been appropriated by heterosexuals with blue hair. It might even rile me up more than cis, so if you call me a cis queer prepare to regret it.

morningtoncrescent62 · 23/01/2019 20:41

Anybody who calls me queer gets told to eff off. I’ve always hated it, and even more so now it’s been appropriated by heterosexuals with blue hair.

Oh, perfect! I've just had one of those moments when someone sums up exactly what I've been sort of thinking for ages without putting into words. Thank you Badstyley.

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 20:45

It's transphobic because of using the term SEX, I'd guess.

merrymouse · 23/01/2019 20:49

Apparently homosexual is out but queer is fine.

Well yes obviously - queer is just so much more inclusive of heterosexual people.

GrumpyGran8 · 23/01/2019 20:54

The word may have been Discordian, a follower of Discordianism
It revolves around the worship of the goddess Eris, who rules over chaos and disorder. It's not a religion, more a loose belief system, and followers aren't supposed to take themselves seriously.
Now, however, it sounds as though the name has been picked up by the woke 'genderqueer' lot, who have no sense of Discordianism's history and certainly no sense of humour!

JeremyPacman · 23/01/2019 20:58

Fucking hell. I'm a straight 40 year old woman (the cunty type) and I'd never call someone queer. It was a hideous playground insult when I was growing up.

Stonewall culture is eating itself.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 23/01/2019 21:02

Sorry.

Couldn't post the screenshot.

Check out this insanity.....

twitter.com/MalachiteTiger/status/1088127118830174210?s=19

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WTFIsAGleepglorp · 23/01/2019 21:08

Oh.

And they are a furry geek who writes pornographic rpg....

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itsbritneybiatches · 23/01/2019 21:10

I'm not sure what I am allowed to say anymore?!

DangermousesSidekick · 23/01/2019 21:13

I am so tired of the bullshit. The clue is in the name.

DangermousesSidekick · 23/01/2019 21:14

As in the term 'homosexual', not my username! Smile

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 21:35

I've come across that person before. They are a full on TRA.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 23/01/2019 21:54

They're full on something, that's for sure.

Queer used to be an insult (with faggot and pouf) and homosexual was the factually correct term for gay and lesbian.

Homo = same.

Homosexual = same sex.

If these TRAs muddy the waters trying to redefine perfectly acceptable terms, how can one argue with them?

Textbook definitions should never be up for debate.

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Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 21:56

Talk guidelines prevent me from saying Grin

pachyderm · 23/01/2019 21:57

So fed up of straight women calling themselves queer because they snogged their best friend in 2003 after too many rum and cokes. You're embarrassing yourself, luv. And as a straight woman, I usually back away from these things because it's not my place. But at least I know what a lesbian is, and it's not a straight woman or a bloke.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 23/01/2019 22:04

Look at all the shit the Eight Lesbians got for their Lesbians are Female Homosexuals banner.

Stonewall & the transactivist movement are worse homophobes than Thatcher's government ever were. They're certainly far more dangerous to lesbians.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 23/01/2019 22:05

And as a straight woman, I usually back away from these things because it's not my place. But at least I know what a lesbian is, and it's not a straight woman or a bloke.

Straight or otherwise, I'd rather have women like you standing with me than Ruth Hunt & Linda Riley any day. We need all the voices we can get!

pombear · 23/01/2019 22:06

Grass roots Welp, grass roots. Whilst these people are bleating on social media, women are amassing, gathering, talking in real life.

These social media trans-warriors I suspect haven't experienced proper conversations, meeting in real life, movements and actions away from twitter and the like.

We are witnessing a ramping up of the narrative, their fear of women talking, gathering, away from social media, it must be worrying for them to realise there's a world away from the keyboard that they can't control.

When you live your life through social media, it potentially narrows your world and makes you believe that control is within your own hands.

To see women rejecting that, and starting to build back up networks and conversations that aren't within your perceived 'control' I guess it must be concerning for them.

'Flailing' is the word that comes to mind.

Welp maybe you're 'out' in terms of social media. Understandable, given the harsh environment.

But don't forget the value of normal human conversations, outside of social media like twitter.

I had one today, accidentally through work, that may have encouraged three other women to investigate this subject. They may agree or disagree with me in the end (I suspect they'll be on the gender critical side,due to their line of work which impacts women) but we had the conversation outside of twitterland.

Step by step.

Conversation by conversation.

We can help people outside of twitterland to start critcially thinking about this issue. All is not lost.

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:08

Stonewall & the transactivist movement are worse homophobes than Thatcher's government ever were. They're certainly far more dangerous to lesbians.

So sad. Such a male rights movement Thanks

pombear · 23/01/2019 22:09

WTFisAGleepgorp not 'welp' ffs. Sorry Gleepgorp, no idea why I decided to address the title not the poster, particularly as I love your user name and remember what it means!

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