The word is out there

[Kettleon80]

Hi all

I left Mumsnet a while back when the new moderation rules came in after a number of slapped wrists, but I've joined again to share my own little bit of news. I've now NCd but it's very similar to my old one.

The Trans debate seriously made me so angry, ill and depressed but I've had some space now and would like to get a bit more involved again.

Got chatting at work today with two white, middle aged, male colleagues. Did not mention anything about my GC views but they knew ALL about the trans debate, thought it was an absolute abomination that there may be TW trying to enter female toilets, knew all the dangers - everything. It made me very happy that they had got wind of the debate, and made me think that this is now mainstream. They are not on Twitter or MN but had all the info.

So today I felt quite satisfied in my own small way. I've never spoken about these issues outside GC forums and family so I feel like it's become perfectly acceptable to say that you don't believe TW are women.

And if that gets my chucked off MN so be it

AmoraObscura agreed we still have a way to go and as the OP said it's talking to people one by one in real life. This battle will not be won online

good news, Kettle- did your colleagues give any hint as to where they'd heard about these issues?

Contrary to the consensus here that men don't care about things until it affects them, I believe most men are GC.

I suspect fewer men feel the need to “be nice” and therefore likely to happily state that they are non-believers.

But being gender critical doesn’t mean they will do anything about it if it’s not affecting them as they see it as unimportant compared to other political events.

Most of those pushing for debate are women. Here, on Twitter, and in meetings and groups.

being gender critical doesn’t mean they will do anything about it if it’s not affecting them as they see it as unimportant compared to other political events.
I know of at least one man in my immediate family who refused to fill in the GRA consultation on the grounds that ‘it didn’t affect him’. This was even after his female partner of several decades asked him directly if he would, explaining why it was important to her.