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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First woman of artificial intelligence.

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Cismyfatarse1 · 19/01/2019 16:49

This article is in today's Times.

Some interesting moments. The anecdote about finishing an anecdote in a Nobel Laureate's Office reads to me as the journalist suggesting her narcissism. Also, the wife staying married. Plus the suicide attempt.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vivienne-ming-interview-on-sexism-in-silicon-valley-and-the-future-of-artificial-intelligence-h7z36gxcm?shareToken=e2272e6786821b2ce8c85bf6f8754351

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JSmitty · 19/01/2019 16:52

Artificial Intelligence was first defined by Alan Turing with his famous "Imitation Game" test in 1950, based on a parlour game of the day in which you were challenged to deduce the sex of a person who can only communicate with you in writing.

WombOfOnesOwn · 19/01/2019 16:58

Wow, yes, it would appear the journalist doesn't buy into this person's hype about themselves.

Many of the MTFs in tech are very into AI and trying to make artificial life. All of this seems to be about thinking regular women are really quite insufficient, and wanting to make their own perfect woman, like the movie "Weird Science."

When regular women nearby just won't do, some men go marry a foreign woman they've stereotyped as being very different. Some decide to become a woman themselves, and show us all how it's done. And some, apparently, try to enter the tech world to make sure it can be done technologically.

Martine Rothblatt has made their wife's likeness as a robot who cries about not being human. There's something very creepy about this contingent of males seeking female replacement, especially when it comes at the same time as discussion of growing babies outside the womb.

It won't be long, mark my words, before some men start agitating for biological women to be considered obsolete and not worth having in a society. We're a couple of tech developments away (mostly out-of-womb embryo/fetus development), but in 100 years, I expect they'll be literally trying to exterminate us.

rubisco · 19/01/2019 17:41

There's no doubt that AI research is dominated by men, but there are plenty of prominent women too. Fei-Fei Li was until recently director of the AI Lab at Stanford, the intellectual centre of Silicon Valley; Joëlle Pineau runs the Montreal lab of Facebook's AI operation, and is leading a very successful campaign to insist on scientific principles in AI research; Mary Ellen Perry has been executive director of NIPS / NeurIPS for several years - the most prestigious AI conference and publication venue. And many others with more impressive achievements than Vivienne Ming.

nauticant · 19/01/2019 18:14

Read the article. Get to the end. Then ask yourself, apart from the name, the pronouns and the stereotypes, was that a woman's voice I heard or a man's? I heard MAN, very loud and very clear.

EJennings · 19/01/2019 18:42

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