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Woman refused termination in Dublin

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CandidCat · 19/01/2019 13:06

A woman in the Irish Republic was refused an abortion despite her unborn baby being diagnosed with a fatal foetal abnormality...

...The woman was told she must wait four weeks to see if there was a spontaneous miscarriage, the Dáil was told.

Abortion became legal in RoI last month, but it looks like funding and facilities haven't caught up.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46912545

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ElfrideSwancourt · 19/01/2019 13:41

I know someone who works in the Irish health service - there is no funding or provision they are assuming GPs will prescribe the medication but no facilities if there is eg incomplete removal of tissue.

userschmoozer · 19/01/2019 13:47

But retained tissue can kill you. What do they expect women to do, travel to England?
I'm concerned that where women are winning rights, they are on paper only, and the laws are not being upheld.

Previous thread;
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3481999-Irish-woman-denied-abortion-in-test-case-WARNING-upsetting-details-in-link?msgid=84233916

BirdieInTheHand · 19/01/2019 14:00

It seems the issue is not whether there are the facilities/medication (she requires an induction of labour)

Rather since she is over 13 weeks the rules are that a committee must deem the abnormalities to be fatal. They have stated they are not.

It's an awful case so bloody tragic.

FloralBunting · 19/01/2019 14:14

What exactly is the law there now? I'm quite confused, tbh, from what I had been reading, the repeal vote and subsequent law change meant a very much more liberal law situation, but are there specific restrictions?

Also, even given a change which meant the most liberal laws anywhere in the world, you're going from a very conservative system to a more liberal one in a whole nation where there was quite some resistance to liberalization - it's not going to be without significant bumps in the road. Heart breaking for the mum.

BirdieInTheHand · 19/01/2019 14:42

The law allows for abortion up to 12 weeks and after 12 weeks if the mothers life or health is at risk or in case of fatal fetal abnormality.

FloralBunting · 19/01/2019 14:54

Oh I see. So the sticking point is the prognosis for the baby? That is so hard.

BirdieInTheHand · 19/01/2019 17:52

flora yes. I believe the women's HCPs have stated the abnormalities are incompatible with life but have been overruled by a "committee".

I have no idea who comprises the committee or under whose jurisdiction they operate. Awful.

FloralBunting · 19/01/2019 18:53

That sounds suspiciously like a deliberately political obstruction. Sometimes I am truly ashamed of those who share my beliefs. I really hope she gets this resolved. If she has to have an induction of labour it's going to be horribly traumatic anyway, I can't even get my head around having to fight for it to happen. Just awful.

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