Really though?

[ReallyFrida]

lmo.safespacesussex.org.uk/a-life-more-ordinary/?fb

This is interesting. It's not totally obvious to see but there are white arrows on the left and right hand of the screen and you can read 6 women's stories.

Well 5. 5 women discuss, sexual assault, stalking, domestic violence. The 6th woman had to deal with transphobic comments like people telling her where the men's room was when she went in the women's and lesbians saying they can tell a mile away. Once some guys sang Lola at her. Which tbf, isn't nice, but isn't actually a patch on casual street harassment women go through. She wants you to know that she does dress sexy and like pretty clothes, as all women do.

This is the issue isn't it, we see these things as equal? Or in fact, worse, because TW are the most vulnerable people unlike privileged cis women.

I can’t believe they thought it was appropriate to put the tw’s story of someone singing a song at them with the women’s stories of being seriously beaten and sexually assaulted. How insulting!

Obviously no one should have to put up with being called names, but it’s not even in the same ballpark as the women’s stories. Men fear being laughed at, and women fear being killed and this illustrates that perfectly.

The lady who was squeezed so hard in a pub by a male colleague that she passed out springs to mind here.

Women have to put up with the same shit all the time.

If the other five women’s stories had been if street catcalling, treatment due to how they dress, etc then this would have been appropriate.

To put it next to actual physical assaults is inappropriate.

people telling her where the men's room was when she went in the women's and lesbians saying they can tell a mile away.

People observing reality is not abusive. It's not harassment. It's fact.

Women will tell TW where the men's room is because they are men. Many women are not comfortable with men using women's facilities alongside them, do not want this, and that the men see themselves as women is not an illusion or belief that women have to share in. Lesbians are harassed for sex by TW who identify as lesbians, again it is not abusive or even wrong to point out that a TW is not a woman.

This is a piece of gaslighting that society has to get over. TW, fine. Absolutely entitled to protection under law from stalking, intimidation, violence, discrimination, exactly the same as everyone else. Others not indulging a person's self perception in all situations - the problem is with the person and their reliance on others for validation, and the expectation of others to lie. Convincingly. And put the TW's interests above their own, even when the TW is making them uncomfortable. Not reasonable.

A man said, 'What big f*ing hands,' to me once. I am really conscious about my hands.

I've also been asked if I'm a woman and when I said yes, the man said, 'What, a real one?'

It's generally men, on the streets, who make these comments.*

Yeah? So why is all the abuse and accusations of transphobia directed at women then?

Once I was going to the ladies toilet at a comedy show and a guy walked past and said, 'Our toilets are over there. We go down there to pee'. He was telling me he thought I was a man and shouldn't be going to the ladies.

A man who understands women's need for - oh the irony - safe spaces?

Trans people need to be safe too, but it sounds as though that bloke was being inclusive and unthreatening.

Day,
It's generally men, on the streets, who make these comments
Absolutely.

Yet all the flack and abuse is directed at women.

Why can't TW's see that?

This is why I take their “3532689754% of transwomen have been abused in the past 5 minutes” stats with a mountain of salt.

Their whole perspective is as unrealistic as their life expectations and their understanding of biology.

I find it extraordinary that Sussex police can't see that one of those testimonies is not on the same scale as the others

I find it extraordinary that Sussex police can't see that one of those testimonies is not on the same scale as the others

I don't. Brighton is so far up its own arse it can't see which way is up.