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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fawcett undermines its own campaign against violence against women by saying the violence is "gender" based!!

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stumbledin · 14/01/2019 23:26

Not sure if this is the start (or restart) of a campaign to get misogyny classified as a hate crime, but it is just so disturbing that the most high profile women's campaign group has swallowed the trans training and undermined the cause by saying that "gender" causes the violence.

And it is signed by Women's Aid. Both organisations were set up on the basis of discrimination against women because of their sex and now they seem to be selling out that herstory so as not to name the problem as being men.

Angry

www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/news/new-fawcett-data-reveals-gender-is-most-common-cause-of-hate-crime-for-women

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BubonicTheHedgehag · 14/01/2019 23:36

That headline is bad.
New Fawcett data reveals gender is most common cause of hate crime for women

No.

Grassroots data from actual women reveal that the most common cause of hate crimes against women is their sex

stumbledin · 14/01/2019 23:39

Exactly - but it isn't just the headline it is all the way through. Even the presentation of statistics blames "gender". I despair.

Important findings from the data include:

  • Hate crime motivated by gender was most common amongst 16-24 year olds and 25-44 year olds, with 23,000 and 25,000 incidents respectively
  • Amongst all respondents to the Crime Survey of England and Wales, male and female, 67,000 gender hate crimes were recorded. Of these 15% or 10,000 were reported by men, less than any other strand for that sex other than gender identity.
  • Gender as a motivating factor was slightly more common for white respondents than respondents from BAME backgrounds, at 32% compared to 25%.
  • 70% of gender-motivated hate crime was attributed by survey respondents to being motivated by gender only, with incidents motivated by gender and age the next most common.
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stumbledin · 14/01/2019 23:39

Exactly - but it isn't just the headline it is all the way through. Even the presentation of statistics blames "gender". I despair.

Important findings from the data include:

  • Hate crime motivated by gender was most common amongst 16-24 year olds and 25-44 year olds, with 23,000 and 25,000 incidents respectively
  • Amongst all respondents to the Crime Survey of England and Wales, male and female, 67,000 gender hate crimes were recorded. Of these 15% or 10,000 were reported by men, less than any other strand for that sex other than gender identity.
  • Gender as a motivating factor was slightly more common for white respondents than respondents from BAME backgrounds, at 32% compared to 25%.
  • 70% of gender-motivated hate crime was attributed by survey respondents to being motivated by gender only, with incidents motivated by gender and age the next most common.
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womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/01/2019 23:56

A horrible conflation of gender with sex. They seemed to have used a PR outfit Fresh Communication who seem to have muddied the message as the actual quotes from Katie Ghost, Helen Voce etc in the linked document are very clear about women, sexism and misogyny plus what the data from Nottinghamshire recorded.

It looks to me like the PR agency muddied the waters with quotes like Campaigners also want to see hate crime recorded in an intersectional way, as they believe that the impact on black, Muslim and Jewish women, in particular, is under-recorded and not recognised

and

ï‚·Amongst all respondents to the Crime Survey of England and Wales, male and female, 67,000 gender hate crimes were recorded. Of these 15% or 10,000 were reported by men, less than any other strand for that sex other than gender identity.
ï‚· Gender as a motivating factor was slightly more common for white respondents than respondents from BAME backgrounds, at 32% compared to 25%.
ï‚· 70% of gender-motivated hate crime was attributed by survey respondents to being motivated by gender only, with incidents motivated by gender and age the next most common.

The use of the word gender in these statements is at odds with what Katie, Helen et al actually said.

I do wish people like Katie and Helen would check press releases before they go out

20 woke points for complicity in conflating sex and gender and 0 points for clarity and accurateness.

TimeLady · 15/01/2019 07:28

Comic Relief is the same

www.comicrelief.com/what-we-do/fighting-for-gender-justice

gender-based violence is a global epidemic, with 1 in 3 women affected worldwide; and in the UK approximately 30 women attempt suicide as a result of experiencing domestic violence every day. These are shocking statistics. However, limited funding goes towards feminist movements and women’s rights organisations, despite the clear evidence that this is critical in creating and sustaining transformative change for women and girls.

If they believe that TWAW, then they have to use 'gender'. not 'sex'. It's comes across as disingenuous, but it's quite deliberate.

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