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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Genderqueer massage therapist helps with chest binding pain

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QuietContraryMary · 06/01/2019 11:48

Yes, it's perfectly normal guys. (Also in the pipeline, foot binding and neck stretching.)

"The class is a workshop for people who bind — a practice that involves wearing a tight sports bra or other constricting undergarment to help flatten the chest, sometimes for extended periods of time. For people who identify as transgender or gender-nonconforming and were assigned female at birth, binding can be essential to appearing more masculine — or simply feeling more comfortable in their own bodies.

But for some people, especially those who constrict their chest for many hours a day, sometimes over several years, the practice can take a serious physical toll, leading to sharp muscle pain, shortness of breath and bad posture.

That's why Reed, a massage therapist who identifies as genderqueer and uses the pronouns they and them, started teaching these classes about six years ago at Freed Bodyworks, the Capitol Hill wellness center Reed founded that caters to the LGBTQ community, including gender-nonconforming people."

""We provide a place where, for two hours, people are in here only with others experiencing the same thing," Reed said. "They find out other people are in as much pain as they are. There's just this instant sense of relief of not being alone.""

"Connor Cory first started getting massages from Freed Bodyworks a few years ago, when he had just started law school and had recently begun openly identifying as a transgender man. Through one-on-one massages and group binding classes, Cory has learned how to mitigate extreme back pain and poor alignment after years of binding, he said. Massage therapists at Freed Bodyworks have also helped him loosen up scar tissue from undergoing chest surgery about two years ago."

"Reed has seen clients who have traveled from rural areas hours away. Some don't have the resources to pursue top surgery in their communities and rely on binding for up to 12 hours a day to "pass" in their places of work, in industries such as construction. Reed described another client, a 17-year-old, who suffered such excruciating rib pain from binding that he sometimes had to go home from high school."

"Minimal research has been conducted on the health impacts of binding. But one survey published in 2016, the Binding Health Project, found that physical discomfort was almost universal among transgender adults who bind. More than 97 percent of the 1,800 survey participants said they had experienced a negative health outcome, including back pain, overheating, chest pain, shortness of breath, itching and bad posture."

"It wasn't until after Reed had started teaching binding classes that the practice took a toll on their own life. After working as a massage therapist in a binder every day for years, Reed developed such a severe shoulder injury that they were unable to lift their right arm and were forced to take five months off work as a massage therapist.

"I couldn't wear a binder at all for those five months. I couldn't even wear a traditional bra because the pain was so severe," Reed said. "The gender dysphoria that caused for me was huge.""

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AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 20:29

Due to a rather, hmm, let's just say colorful youth I've known multiple people who've made use of needle exchanges and methadone clinics. Although shaming of users is avoided the overall tone is very different to the "this is totally a positive thing that you're doing and it's just that the rest of the world is bigoted and doesn't understand why it's a good thing" tone that services like the one being described in the OP take. I honestly can't imagine anyone running a harm reduction program for addicts that took the tone that the program in the OP does.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 06/01/2019 20:35

Yes, I don't think it should be promoted as something that is good for you. I guess it's whether you think it is being promoted as such.

One point though- it's not just trans men who bind. Some butch lesbians do it too, but do not in any way ID as male or deny that they are women.

ToeToToe · 06/01/2019 20:35

Sorry, that was EJennings !

AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 20:46

In order to qualify as a harm reduction program the people running it need to acknowledge that harm is being done. In this case they're ideologically unwilling to do that.

Bowlofbabelfish · 06/01/2019 21:12

I have no issue with specific help with binding or showing them how it can be done safely

It can’t be done safely. It is by definition tissue damage. Anyone giving out binders, encouraging binding or promoting it is aiding the mutilation of healthy bodies.

I think I remember from another thread that there are no UK suppliers of binders? Why is that? Could it be that they are classed as medical devices?

ThisHasReallyPIssedMeOff · 06/01/2019 21:44

It's almost like it's not a good thing...

Purplewithgreenspots · 06/01/2019 22:20

I used to wear sports bras. Since when did they become like chest binders? Hmm

QuietContraryMary · 06/01/2019 23:28

A binder is a binder. It's a body modification.

A sports bra, or a minimizer bra is not the same thing.

The crux of this whole transgender thing to me is, somehow, miraculously, men are being told they can have penises and be women and it's all ok, and yet young women are told they should mutilate or bind their breasts.

There are transwomen actively showing off their penises in public situations and single-gender spaces, and yet there's literally no one saying that transmen should be proud of their breasts.

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ToeToToe · 06/01/2019 23:43

Ain't that the bloody truth OP.

Incredible freedoms for males, more restrictions/mutilations for women. As per bloody usual.

Purplewithgreenspots · 07/01/2019 05:59

I saw a photo of some girls with their breasts removed. The poor things, anyone who can do this to a growing child is a monster. Words cannot express how angry I am. How dare they!

If these children really do have dysphoria I feel sorry for them but they should be given a chance to grow into full adults and see if they desist first.

Babdoc · 07/01/2019 09:39

Many (possibly even the majority) of young girls are embarrassed by their developing breasts, and upset by the unwanted leering and comments of predatory men.
It wouldn’t take much pushing by the transgender industry to persuade them that they’re dysphoric and want rid of their breasts, and this “normalising” of binding and mutilation is horrific.
It should be illegal at least until the girls are over 18 and through puberty, and have had time to grow into and understand that being a woman doesn’t mean you have to sign up for sexist abuse.
Most will be either straight females or lesbians - a vanishingly small minority will actually be gender dysphoric, and they can be referred to doctors as adults.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/01/2019 09:45

Or just girls who are embarrassed by their bodies, painfully shy who want to be ‘invisible’ or girls who feel that they want to be ‘something’ (and the validation given to these kids is as if they are rock stars).

R0wantrees · 07/01/2019 09:57

The workshop described in the OP is based on the model of peer-support, not harm reduction. They are very different.

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