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Doctors Speak Out: Lupron and the Diabolical Push to Sterilize, Gender-transition Confused Kids

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GrinitchSpinach · 03/01/2019 15:45

Once again the Christian press shedding some light on a topic so many other outlets won't touch. Lots of interesting stuff here:

www.christianpost.com/news/doctors-speak-out-lupron-and-the-diabolical-push-to-sterilize-gender-transition-confused-kids.html

"Gender dysphoria is not an endocrine condition, but is a psychological one and should, therefore, be treated with proper psychological care. But it becomes an endocrine condition once you start using puberty blockers and giving cross-sex hormones to kids," Laidlaw stressed.

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Behind the push toward this particular medical paradigm is a highly politicized group called the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, an organization that has effectively overhauled the entire conversation.

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The entire project collapsed and Johns Hopkins ultimately closed the program in the early 1980s. It stayed relatively dormant until 2006 when Dr. Norman Spack in Boston, Massachusetts, decided to reinvigorate transgender medicine in the United States, Van Meter explained, "and from there it literally spread like a viral infection." -- isn't Spack the specialist Susie Green to whom took her child for cross sex hormones at a younger age than the NHS would consider prescribing them?

Little did Van Meter know that between 2006 and 2009 Spack would help engineer the now infamous guidelines for the Endocrine Society. In Europe, prior to 2006 the thought of administering blockers to children was widely regarded in the academic and medical community as "wild nonsense," he told CP, and providers of this kind of treatment and surgeries were sparse and largely underground in the United States.

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"This is how it works," he recounted with disgust, "there is a core of very diabolical people who are filtering large sums of money into this and using mass social pressure."

When they attempt to write rebuttals, they can't do so because they "get thrown in with 'xenophobe, homophobe, transphobe, phobe-phobes' and we're all called 'right-wing Christian nutcases' and that summarily dismisses us because they supposedly have the science and we don't."

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"If you do not have a transgender clinic and you don't have enough numbers you don't get points," he explained. "There's a perverse incentive by our lovely U.S. News and World Report's Best of the Best Children's hospitals. It's to get more points by making sure you have more transgender patients in large numbers and you're helping these kids out, supposedly."

also, I hadn't heard of this before:
Such bullying has also been legally used in courts to remove children from their parents. Earlier this year, Judge Sylvia Hendon in Hamilton County, Ohio, ruled that a 17-year-old should be removed from the custody of her parents due to their objections to transgender medicine. Must look into the details and will make a separate thread about that...

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GrinitchSpinach · 03/01/2019 16:11

(looked into it further and that Ohio case is more complicated and probably less worrisome than portrayed in this mention. See 4thwavenow.com/2018/02/19/cincinnati-trans-teen-custody-case-legal-analysis/ )

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GrinitchSpinach · 04/01/2019 14:31

Just to follow up, yes, Spack treated Jackie Green at age 12, according to this Daily Mail article:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3973036/Jackie-Green-heart-controversy-children-young-nine-given-drugs-change-sex.html

The Mail calls Spack "evangelist-in-chief for early medical intervention" and "the guiding light of Mermaids and a friend of both Susie Green and Dr Webberley."

I think the good doctor requires his own thread. Will try to put something together.

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EJennings · 04/01/2019 16:54

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FWRLurker · 04/01/2019 16:57

"Physicians in America should be ashamed of themselves. I don’t care what risk they might face speaking out. They took an oath. They have a duty. Most of them have been well compensated for adhering to that oath and performing that duty. They don’t get to shirk it now."

The issue is that best practice in medicine is enforced by consensus. Once there's a consensus, doing the opposite is considered malpractice. Doctors unfortunately DO get to shirk responsibility as long as they followed best practice at the time. Hence the push to fast-track medically assisted affirmation therapy at top hospitals without any studies being done.

GrinitchSpinach · 04/01/2019 17:05

They took an oath. They have a duty.

Absolutely agree, EJennings. Spack/Boston Children's are affiliated with Harvard. Parents expect experts with these kind of name-brand credentials to actually, you know, not just make...stuff...up.

From the article in OP:

Van Meter recalled hearing a presentation from Spack at the combined European Pediatric Endocrine Society and the American Pediatric Endocrine Society and was appalled by what he heard, particularly what Spack was calling "solid science."

"There was no 'solid science' but it was not in a forum where I was comfortable raising my hand and saying, 'Excuse me, but where did you make up all this crap?' It wasn't my modus operandi and I just thought 'Well, this is a crazy person, this isn't going anywhere."

Now Van Meter and these other two are speaking out, or trying to, but say they're being deplatformed and ridiculed for it.

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R0wantrees · 04/01/2019 18:19

The entire project collapsed and Johns Hopkins ultimately closed the program in the early 1980s. It stayed relatively dormant until 2006 when Dr. Norman Spack in Boston, Massachusetts, decided to reinvigorate transgender medicine in the United States, Van Meter explained, "and from there it literally spread like a viral infection." -- isn't Spack the specialist Susie Green to whom took her child for cross sex hormones at a younger age than the NHS would consider prescribing them?

Current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3469374-Dr-Norman-Spack-evangelist-in-chief-for-early-medical-intervention

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