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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fan Bingbing and the Chinese government

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 01/01/2019 02:35

This is an interesting take on the strange disappearance and reappearance of Fan Bingbing. That just by being successful and admired, her profile brings her into conflict with the government.

www.theverge.com/2018/10/23/17991988/fan-bingbing-disappearance-reappearance-china-tax-evasion-social-media

Given the enormous imbalance of men to women after decades of the one-child policy, which favoured boy babies, women are becoming scarce.

Of course, instead of treating the women they have with respect and consideration, many men are turning to the commodification of women via prostitution, sexual violence and human trafficking. They’re building houses to attract wives instead of working to dismantle the cultural imperative which produced it in the first place.

And just in China.
www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/?utm_term=.01d93c927051

This paragraph made me laugh, but not in a nice way. “Village life and mental health. Among men, loneliness and depression are widespread. Villages are emptying out. Men are learning to cook and perform other chores long relegated to women.”

The patriarchy triumphs: I’m pretty sure few of those depressed and lonely men are not marching in the streets in support of feminism, but sulking over their despised cooking pots.

In the interests of fairness, these men are doing excellent work and should be commended for speaking against the tide.
m.timesofindia.com/home/sunday-times/meet-indias-male-feminists/articleshow/60896225.cms

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 01/01/2019 09:12

Thanks for this link, reading it now. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens now that women are becoming a scarce valuable (for bullshit reasons).

But this bit:

China’s official one-child policy, in effect from 1979 to 2015, was a huge factor in creating this imbalance, as millions of couples were determined that their child should be a son.

Fuck off. The one-child policy didn't impact the number of baby girls conceived. The Patriarchal society that places no value on females, so they were killed, is the cause of the imbalance.

Allowing more than one child just allowed people to hide their prejudice by keeping having children to fix their 'misfortune' of having girls.

Will keep reading!

Imnobody4 · 01/01/2019 10:08

My first thought is I'm sure many of these surplus men are transwomen so it's all good.
Polygamy also causes problems.
www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/03/19/why-polygamy-breeds-civil-war

Maybe Jordan Petersen has a point but how he thinks it's women who are the force for chaos when it's blindingly obvious that it's men I'll never understand. Great respect for the feminist men in India particularly liked the quote about men can't be free till women are free.

craftykamo · 02/01/2019 01:27

Recent analysis has now shown that girl babies weren’t killed in huge numbers, they just weren’t registered with the authorities. Lots of families had more than one child anyway. I currently live in China and it really isn’t the case that women are scarce. There may be many men who are unable to find a wife, but a lot of this isn’t down to numbers, more that recent generations of women aren’t that interested in giving up careers or can’t afford housing. The government sees their upcoming demographic timebomb and is considering increasing the child limit again to encourage more babies.

My husband is working as an engineer here and says there’s a lot more women in senior engineering positions here than there is in the UK. There’s plenty of issues in China, the disappearance of Fan Bingbing reflects a current cultural contradiction, where the CCP wants to reduce the appearance of gratuitous wealth, while encouraging a general culture of ridiculous consumerism in the middle classes. But I don’t think it’s much more misogynistic than the West.

SpareRibFem · 02/01/2019 10:58

theres a lot more women in senior engineering positions here than in the uk

Most countries in the world have more women in senior engineering positions than the uk, says more about the uk than anything else.

IcedPurple · 02/01/2019 15:52

Given the enormous imbalance of men to women after decades of the one-child policy, which favoured boy babies, women are becoming scarce.

The one-child policy has been more or less abandoned, and from what I hear from the Chinese students I work with, the bias in favour of boys is mostly a thing of the past, at least in the cities. In fact, many families prefer girls these days!

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