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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MTV star Lachlan Watson's gender trip

37 replies

SignMeUp · 01/01/2019 00:21

www.mtv.com/news/3107736/lachlan-watson-non-binary-journey/
Here's a celebrity saying how they went from lesbian ish (age 13) to You-tube transed, to non binary. Then went ahead with the mastectomy anyway. Fascinatingly weirdly encouraging.

What do you make of this latest trend setting?

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LangCleg · 01/01/2019 11:48

That's why it important to hold on to the fact that we are talking about a quasi-religion.

Yes. This.

MrSlant · 01/01/2019 11:54

I'm scared to offend here but in my day, back in the mists of time, teenage girls who hated their bodies changing fought against the change with anorexia/bulimia. I was at an all girls boarding school so know the incidence of this would be higher than the general school population but is this still a course of action or have we replaced one kind of body hatred with another? I'm often struck by the similarities and then the absolute horror that one is celebrated, no one is allowed to point out the danger and horrifyingly permanent whilst the other is treated as a disease and we tell then NO.

I'm also so saddened that in the face of society's expectation instead of saying 'you can't tell me who I'm going to be' teenagers are now lopping their breasts off to try and hide who they are. Horrifying.

TornFromTheInside · 01/01/2019 11:55

And they are being encouraged by predominantly skirt wearing blokes who still keep their penises and enjoy their erections.

userschmoozer · 01/01/2019 12:02

Can OP explain whats encouraging about eradicating lesbians?

IamThereforeIdontIdentify · 01/01/2019 12:15

Boobs can't be non-binary because heterosexual men say they're not and homosexual men (many of whom are in fashion/marketing) don't like them so prefer smaller boobs to bigger. Those two storms combine to say boobs are a distinct part of not being a man.

One of the first things trans women seem to want to do is have a padded bra - proves they're no longer a man.

First thing trans men want to do is hide their breasts.

TornFromTheInside · 01/01/2019 12:16

Throughout that article, I kept thinking 'she is searching and not finding it'.

Then having tried / believed she was lesbian (then reaching the conclusion she was wrong), she then believed she was male, only to later believe she was wrong, then believed she was non-binary and had her breasts removed - begging the question how she knew this time she wouldn't discover that was a mistake too?

Now having seemingly settled, how can anybody be sure her non-binary status is the cause? perhaps plain old maturity kicked in too?
And, maybe in this instance it all turned out ok - but there must be similar stories where that breast surgery was yet another misjudgment?

Yes, I know the interview used 'he'.

Thingybob · 01/01/2019 23:16

Why can’t boobs be non binary?

They can. Non binary men take hormones to grow boobs whilst non binary women chop theirs off. Crazy

littlbrowndog · 02/01/2019 00:00

Jeez
To much time to much money to much me
Get some hobbies get a job

SarahCarer · 02/01/2019 00:13

We didn’t complain as much when really young women and teens had breast enhancement surgery because they were dissatisfied with their bodies. We should have shouted louder then - we were setting a precedent for the whole idea of making surgical changes to perfectly healthy, functioning bodies. That whole premise is wrong.
^this

OldCrone · 02/01/2019 00:53

The bit of the article makes me wonder what has gone wrong in the last few decades.

"For the entirety of puberty I ran into that, where every problem that I had with my body wasn’t that I wanted to be male; it was specifically that I didn’t want the world to look at my body and inherently deem me female and inherently decide just by looking at me what I can or cannot do, how I’m supposed to sound, what I’m supposed to say, what my career is going to look like, how I’m supposed to act, my mannerisms. Everything could have been deemed by taking one look at my body because society assumes that’s what we’re bred and born to do,”

She doesn't want to be objectified or have her options restricted because she is female. Why are we not on the same side fighting the outdated stereotypes which really shouldn't exist any more? Why isn't she just being who she wants to be regardless of what people think? Why can't she see that it's society that needs to change, not her body?

Vegilante · 02/01/2019 01:33

Transgenderist "influencers" are training teachers of children to spread gender ideology/idiocy amongst gullible young students. And trans influencers (including drag queens who never completed high school) posing as "experts" are also going into nursery, elementary, middle & high schools directly to tell children that many of them probably were born in the wrong body & all of them can be whatever/whomever they want to be even if it involves "changing sex", an impossibility.

What these kids clearly need instead are 1970s consciousness-raising sessions run by loving, tolerant, properly-qualified radical feminist educators.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 01:49

littlbrowndog

Jeez
To much time to much money to much me
Get some hobbies get a job

Yes, all I got from that article was "me, me, me, me".

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